Red Mosquito

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:In any case, they're probably right.

You’re right from your side
I’m right from mine

I guess I'd kinda hoped for some responses saying that No Code or Vitalogy were like LedZep4 or DSOTMoon and were highly regarded among the young rock stoner teens/uni/college guys. Is it just PJ or does Nevermind and the like fall into that too? Are Nirvana/RHCP/Soundgarden/AIC at all regarded or merely scoffed at?

Maybe when my son trawls through my music as a teen (even though he undoubtedly will be subjected to it before then), maybe he will treasure his 'discovery' then.

I'm a few weeks shy of 24. My Mom got me into Pearl Jam because she played them constantly starting with Ten when I was two. (Sorry.) She listened loyally up until No Code, but bought Binaural and Riot Act out of habit. Things picked up when I was in high school during the lead-up to the avocado album, and the floodgates opened after we saw them at the Santa Barbara Bowl in 2006. Since then we've seen them twice in 2009, both nights of Bridge School 2010, and both nights of PJ20. On top of that, four times seeing Eddie, plus both nights of Bridge School 2011. I only say this to show that there is at least one person born in 1989 that's in the deep end. I'm also a die-hard Binaural fan and was listening to Constitution Hall before it was cool.

In high school (and college to an extent), dealing with "Hurr-Durr" taunts from my friends, who I normally agree with, sucked. I was too young to realize that they wouldn't dig their heels in if I didn't argue my point as much. Since then the range of answers I get (in order of positivity) are "Pearl Jam is gay." (See you in hell hometown.), "Don't listen to anything after Vitalogy!", "Ten rocks!", and "My favorite album is Vitalogy." A superset of those are fans of Into the Wild. People that seems that seem like they should be politically or interpersonally on the same page as PJ are usually in love with Cobain's songwriting. Conversely, there was this conservative girl that inexplicably had, and listened to, the entirety of Riot Act.

Something that was interesting/disturbing was browsing my friend's iPod a few years back. It somehow made sense that the only Van Halen album they had was 1984 (assuming that was the full album) and the only Red Hot Chili Peppers album they had was Stadium Arcadium. When I played Blood Sugar Sex Magic, they angrily shouted "What is this‽"

One more anecdote to bring things full circle. My Dad passed way when I was three. Until I was in high school, I had no idea that a side table in the living room was his still stocked record chest. Not long before this my best friend gave me four burned CDs: The Best of Leonard Cohen, Neil Young's Tonight's the Night, Nick Drake's Pink Moon, and Tim Buckley's Goodbye and Hello. When I finally opened up the chest, it was eerily similar to what my friends were having me listen to: Dylan, The Band, Neil Young, The Dead, Culture Club (for some reason), and, finally, a LP of Tim Buckley's Goodbye and Hello. Back in the 60s my Dad had been listening to Jeff Buckley's dad.

tl;dr: We exist. Also, most of those puns were unintentional.

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I have to think another issue with Pearl Jam's "legacy" amongst younger people is
A. Their (PJ's) status in their time. and
B. Today's musical Landscape.

Pearl Jam in a strange way were the odd man out amongst their Peers. As some stated earlier, they were the TRUE descendent's of classic arena rock...Which is probably why they're still selling out arenas today, they just ARE that band. Unfortunately at the time, for many people who were into the alternative/grunge scene, tended to shun Pearl Jam in the early days because of that. I've been listening to them since I was in middle school in '92 and I remember people mocking me THEN for liking them. Then for better or worse there was the whole Ticketmaster issue and it being hard as hell to see them, the lack of videos...interviews, etc... To be a Pearl Jam fan, you really had to TRY and make an effort and seek them out. Which I think is what helped build the intense loyalty that so many fans have with them... But also kind of dissuaded those on the fringe, the casual listener, and the asshole sitting three rows behind you at the show screaming "Play Jeremy! Why don't you play more off of Ten?!!" while the band is playing (somewhat ironically since it's a b-side) Footsteps. True story.

As far as Today's musical landscape, again it's not that difficult to find "new" music today. Turn on the computer and you can find literally anything and everything you want. There's just TOO MUCH out there. Back when I was a teenager, especially being in a smalller town, you had to rely on your cousins that lived in bigger towns, your hip older relative, cool DJs and people at record stores to guide you to other bands you may not be exposed to.

To tie the two together (sort of, and finally shut up) seeing we didn't have (much) of an internet in the early to mid 90's certainly not what it is today, you were limited as to how much information you could find out on your favorite bands. I already had a pretty extensive knowledge of classic rock because of my relatives, and their record collections... But when you'd read interviews and have your favorite bands of YOUR generation, name-drop their favorite bands while growing up, it opened you to a whole other world... I know I was introduced to Bad Religion, Flipper, Fugazi, Budgie, and though it hurts to admit it Sabbath, thanks to some bands out of the North West that came of age in the 90's. I admit I don't listen to a lot of new music, especially stuff that gets a lot of radio play, but when I do flip through some music articles on the web and in magazines, I don't see too many people, if anyone name dropping Pearl Jam as an influence... which I'm sure has an effect too.

DrewRWx wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:In any case, they're probably right.

You’re right from your side
I’m right from mine

I guess I'd kinda hoped for some responses saying that No Code or Vitalogy were like LedZep4 or DSOTMoon and were highly regarded among the young rock stoner teens/uni/college guys. Is it just PJ or does Nevermind and the like fall into that too? Are Nirvana/RHCP/Soundgarden/AIC at all regarded or merely scoffed at?

Maybe when my son trawls through my music as a teen (even though he undoubtedly will be subjected to it before then), maybe he will treasure his 'discovery' then.

I'm a few weeks shy of 24. My Mom got me into Pearl Jam because she played them constantly starting with Ten when I was two. (Sorry.) She listened loyally up until No Code, but bought Binaural and Riot Act out of habit. Things picked up when I was in high school during the lead-up to the avocado album, and the floodgates opened after we saw them at the Santa Barbara Bowl in 2006. Since then we've seen them twice in 2009, both nights of Bridge School 2010, and both nights of PJ20. On top of that, four times seeing Eddie, plus both nights of Bridge School 2011. I only say this to show that there is at least one person born in 1989 that's in the deep end. I'm also a die-hard Binaural fan and was listening to Constitution Hall before it was cool.

In high school (and college to an extent), dealing with "Hurr-Durr" taunts from my friends, who I normally agree with, sucked. I was too young to realize that they wouldn't dig their heels in if I didn't argue my point as much. Since then the range of answers I get (in order of positivity) are "Pearl Jam is gay." (See you in hell hometown.), "Don't listen to anything after Vitalogy!", "Ten rocks!", and "My favorite album is Vitalogy." A superset of those are fans of Into the Wild. People that seems that seem like they should be politically or interpersonally on the same page as PJ are usually in love with Cobain's songwriting. Conversely, there was this conservative girl that inexplicably had, and listened to, the entirety of Riot Act.

Something that was interesting/disturbing was browsing my friend's iPod a few years back. It somehow made sense that the only Van Halen album they had was 1984 (assuming that was the full album) and the only Red Hot Chili Peppers album they had was Stadium Arcadium. When I played Blood Sugar Sex Magic, they angrily shouted "What is this‽"

One more anecdote to bring things full circle. My Dad passed way when I was three. Until I was in high school, I had no idea that a side table in the living room was his still stocked record chest. Not long before this my best friend gave me four burned CDs: The Best of Leonard Cohen, Neil Young's Tonight's the Night, Nick Drake's Pink Moon, and Tim Buckley's Goodbye and Hello. When I finally opened up the chest, it was eerily similar to what my friends were having me listen to: Dylan, The Band, Neil Young, The Dead, Culture Club (for some reason), and, finally, a LP of Tim Buckley's Goodbye and Hello. Back in the 60s my Dad had been listening to Jeff Buckley's dad.

tl;dr: We exist. Also, most of those puns were unintentional.

I was born in 1982. Sadly I can't see much, if anything, capable of attracting kids to latter day PJ. If we're hanging on it's only because of a diminished set of expectations and a bigger heart to forgive the missteps.