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Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 6:48 am
by guitar_davey
PHATJ wrote:I think this song is really good... a great closer. I only listened to the ed version a couple times and that was months ago, so that had no influence on opinion. This is one of my top 5 on the album.
Great closer.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 10:54 am
by stip
This lyric just jumped out at me
“all this talk of rapture – look at all the promise here and now”
There are a quite a few mission statement moments on this album, but that's a good one.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:30 pm
by scrub12
They did it justice. I think I may prefer Eddie’s live versions but this is still great. It did take a little getting used too with the band though.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:36 pm
by jdopj
stip wrote:This lyric just jumped out at me
“all this talk of rapture – look at all the promise here and now”
There are a quite a few mission statement moments on this album, but that's a good one.
I love that line too Stip
For whatever reason this song hits me emotionally quite a bit.
Chokes me up.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:40 pm
by stip
well I think the reason might be that it was written to specifically do that

Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:42 pm
by jdopj
stip wrote:well I think the reason might be that it was written to specifically do that

Well it worked. I’m glad I didn’t hear the live version, it’s beautiful as is.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:43 pm
by stip
worked for me too. it clicked yesterday while doing covid-19 work
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:44 pm
by LoathedVermin72
The first half of this is really good but the inelegant lyrics in the second half ruin everything
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:46 pm
by Ms Harmless
I love how "here and now" runs into "can't hold me down", so it's like one sentence
here and now can't hold me down / won't hold us down
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:49 pm
by Ms Harmless
I'm fine with the addition of the government stuff, since they are on my damaged mind so much of the time; ironically, it's almost like this was a live version of a song we already knew, to which Ed added a "fuck the government" tag
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 3:56 pm
by 7 Years and Maybe Longer
I only listened to the Ed solo version once or twice, and I could see the potential but it didn't blow me away. I think the album version added just enough to make it a great song and one of my favorite closers.
The government verse is a bit off throwing though. Feels like it doesn't fit into this type of song and is distracting.
Does anyone have the full lyrics? Didn't see it posted in the thread.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 6:26 pm
by Ms Harmless
I couldn't be more grateful for this song, this year
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 8:20 pm
by jdopj
Ms Harmless wrote:I couldn't be more grateful for this song, this year
Couldn’t agree more
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:16 pm
by stip
River Cross
Always thought I’d cross that river
The other side distant now
As I got close it turned and widened
Arising now, fading out
Drifting in the undertow
Can’t spot a figure on dry land
And afterthoughts of safety
When in truth, none to be had
None to be had
I used to tell time by my shadow
‘til the thunder clouds, they took the stage
These days will end, as do the light’s rays
Another read of the same page
Wide awake through this deepest night
Still waiting on the sun
As the hours seem to multiple
Find a star to solider on
Living beneath a lion’s paw
Knowing nothing can be tamed
Can be tamed
I want this dream to last forever
A wish denied to lengthen our time
I wish this moment was never ending
Let it be a lie that all future’s die
While the government thrives on discontent
And there’s no such thing as clear
Proselytizing and profiting
As our will all but just disappears
Folded over, forced in a choke hold
Outnumbered and held down
And all these talk of rapture
Look around at the promise now
Here and now
Here and now
Can’t hold me down
Can’t hold me down
Won’t hold us down
Won’t hold us down
Live it out
Let it out
Get it out
Shout it out
Won’t hold us down
Won’t hold us down
Share the light
Won’t hold us down…
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:17 pm
by stip
Wow - those are really powerful. I was taking this song for granted. Seeing them all together it really hits home
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:18 pm
by stip
Here and now, this is a five star song.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:20 pm
by Gigalogy84
I think this is the perfect song to close the album.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:27 pm
by dad
stip wrote:Here and now, this is a five star song.
I love you.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:28 pm
by VinylGuy
stip wrote:Here and now, this is a five star song.
Its amazing.
Re: River Cross
Posted: Sat March 21, 2020 11:33 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Kind of nails the entire essence and mission statement of the band.