Matters wrote:I’m really enjoying this. It gets into my soul right from the start. I kinda wish it would lose its shit more towards the end though.
I was reading about the original on Wiki and saw this cool story about the guitar tuning:
"Save It for Later" features a unique DADAAD tuning that Wakeling stumbled upon; he explained, "I had tried to tune my guitar to DADGAD to play along with Jon Martyn tunes in late 70's before the English Beat started. I accidentally came up with DADAAD, so I made up my own chord shapes and enjoyed the hypnotic drone of the tuning on my national steel for hour after hour." Due to the song's atypical tuning, Who guitarist Pete Townshend called Wakeling to ask how to play the song:
"I got a phone call at 11 in the morning, and somebody gave me the phone and said, “It’s Pete Townshend for you.” And I said, “Of course it is, he phones about this time every Saturday doesn’t he?” [Laughs.] I thought it was somebody making a joke. I picked up very sarcastically, 'Oh, hello Pete.' And he said, 'Oh, hello Dave, this is Peter Townshend here and I’m sitting with David Gilmour [of Pink Floyd], and we're trying to work out your song 'Save It for Later,' but we can’t work out the tuning.' They presumed it was DADGAD as well, and couldn’t make it work, and so I had to explain that I’d made a mistake and it was not DADGAD, it was DADAAD. And he laughed and said, 'Oh, thank heavens for that! We've been breaking our fingers trying to get our hands around these chords.'"
— Dave Wakeling
i always thought it was just the same chords as 'betterman'
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Tue July 30, 2024 12:43 pm
by Bammer
warehouse wrote:
Matters wrote:I’m really enjoying this. It gets into my soul right from the start. I kinda wish it would lose its shit more towards the end though.
I was reading about the original on Wiki and saw this cool story about the guitar tuning:
"Save It for Later" features a unique DADAAD tuning that Wakeling stumbled upon; he explained, "I had tried to tune my guitar to DADGAD to play along with Jon Martyn tunes in late 70's before the English Beat started. I accidentally came up with DADAAD, so I made up my own chord shapes and enjoyed the hypnotic drone of the tuning on my national steel for hour after hour." Due to the song's atypical tuning, Who guitarist Pete Townshend called Wakeling to ask how to play the song:
"I got a phone call at 11 in the morning, and somebody gave me the phone and said, “It’s Pete Townshend for you.” And I said, “Of course it is, he phones about this time every Saturday doesn’t he?” [Laughs.] I thought it was somebody making a joke. I picked up very sarcastically, 'Oh, hello Pete.' And he said, 'Oh, hello Dave, this is Peter Townshend here and I’m sitting with David Gilmour [of Pink Floyd], and we're trying to work out your song 'Save It for Later,' but we can’t work out the tuning.' They presumed it was DADGAD as well, and couldn’t make it work, and so I had to explain that I’d made a mistake and it was not DADGAD, it was DADAAD. And he laughed and said, 'Oh, thank heavens for that! We've been breaking our fingers trying to get our hands around these chords.'"
— Dave Wakeling
i always thought it was just the same chords as 'betterman'
Yeah same here. I don’t buy this story.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Tue July 30, 2024 1:31 pm
by Strat
Bammer wrote:
warehouse wrote:
Matters wrote:I’m really enjoying this. It gets into my soul right from the start. I kinda wish it would lose its shit more towards the end though.
I was reading about the original on Wiki and saw this cool story about the guitar tuning:
"Save It for Later" features a unique DADAAD tuning that Wakeling stumbled upon; he explained, "I had tried to tune my guitar to DADGAD to play along with Jon Martyn tunes in late 70's before the English Beat started. I accidentally came up with DADAAD, so I made up my own chord shapes and enjoyed the hypnotic drone of the tuning on my national steel for hour after hour." Due to the song's atypical tuning, Who guitarist Pete Townshend called Wakeling to ask how to play the song:
"I got a phone call at 11 in the morning, and somebody gave me the phone and said, “It’s Pete Townshend for you.” And I said, “Of course it is, he phones about this time every Saturday doesn’t he?” [Laughs.] I thought it was somebody making a joke. I picked up very sarcastically, 'Oh, hello Pete.' And he said, 'Oh, hello Dave, this is Peter Townshend here and I’m sitting with David Gilmour [of Pink Floyd], and we're trying to work out your song 'Save It for Later,' but we can’t work out the tuning.' They presumed it was DADGAD as well, and couldn’t make it work, and so I had to explain that I’d made a mistake and it was not DADGAD, it was DADAAD. And he laughed and said, 'Oh, thank heavens for that! We've been breaking our fingers trying to get our hands around these chords.'"
— Dave Wakeling
i always thought it was just the same chords as 'betterman'
Yeah same here. I don’t buy this story.
you can still make those "chords" with that tuning. I've never played along to see if the original version is actually D A and G though.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Tue July 30, 2024 4:39 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:
Bammer wrote:
warehouse wrote:
Matters wrote:I’m really enjoying this. It gets into my soul right from the start. I kinda wish it would lose its shit more towards the end though.
I was reading about the original on Wiki and saw this cool story about the guitar tuning:
"Save It for Later" features a unique DADAAD tuning that Wakeling stumbled upon; he explained, "I had tried to tune my guitar to DADGAD to play along with Jon Martyn tunes in late 70's before the English Beat started. I accidentally came up with DADAAD, so I made up my own chord shapes and enjoyed the hypnotic drone of the tuning on my national steel for hour after hour." Due to the song's atypical tuning, Who guitarist Pete Townshend called Wakeling to ask how to play the song:
"I got a phone call at 11 in the morning, and somebody gave me the phone and said, “It’s Pete Townshend for you.” And I said, “Of course it is, he phones about this time every Saturday doesn’t he?” [Laughs.] I thought it was somebody making a joke. I picked up very sarcastically, 'Oh, hello Pete.' And he said, 'Oh, hello Dave, this is Peter Townshend here and I’m sitting with David Gilmour [of Pink Floyd], and we're trying to work out your song 'Save It for Later,' but we can’t work out the tuning.' They presumed it was DADGAD as well, and couldn’t make it work, and so I had to explain that I’d made a mistake and it was not DADGAD, it was DADAAD. And he laughed and said, 'Oh, thank heavens for that! We've been breaking our fingers trying to get our hands around these chords.'"
— Dave Wakeling
i always thought it was just the same chords as 'betterman'
Yeah same here. I don’t buy this story.
you can still make those "chords" with that tuning. I've never played along to see if the original version is actually D A and G though.
It is
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Tue July 30, 2024 5:04 pm
by McParadigm
I’d forgotten the Deep End shows existed.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Wed July 31, 2024 12:10 am
by Matters
Better Man: Written By Eddie Vedder prior to the formation of Pearl Jam. Due to internal disagreement, Better Man was not released until the band’s third album and then became one of Pearl Jam’s most popular songs.
Save It for Later: Written by Dave Wakeling prior to the formation of The English Beat. Due to internal disagreement, Save It for Later was not released until the band’s third album and then became one of The English Beat’s most popular songs.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Wed July 31, 2024 12:55 am
by Buby
Matters wrote:Better Man: Written By Eddie Vedder prior to the formation of Pearl Jam. Due to internal disagreement, Better Man was not released until the band’s third album and then became one of Pearl Jam’s most popular songs.
Save It for Later: Written by Dave Wakeling prior to the formation of The English Beat. Due to internal disagreement, Save It for Later was not released until the band’s third album and then became one of The English Beat’s most popular songs.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Wed July 31, 2024 3:10 pm
by warehouse
Strat wrote:
you can still make those "chords" with that tuning. I've never played along to see if the original version is actually D A and G though.
can you tell a D Major chord is in a different tuning by ear?
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Wed August 07, 2024 7:47 pm
by sweeper
It sounds like Ed may have a studio cover of Petty's 'Room at the Top' coming out on Friday.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Thu August 08, 2024 6:52 pm
by armogi
sweeper wrote:It sounds like Ed may have a studio cover of Petty's 'Room at the Top' coming out on Friday.
the day jeff releases pest 3, he couldn't wait a week!
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Thu August 08, 2024 6:53 pm
by VinylGuy
sweeper wrote:It sounds like Ed may have a studio cover of Petty's 'Room at the Top' coming out on Friday.
really? kinda out of the blue...maybe he and Watt have a covers album or something cooking?
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 4:19 am
by sweeper
VinylGuy wrote:
sweeper wrote:It sounds like Ed may have a studio cover of Petty's 'Room at the Top' coming out on Friday.
really? kinda out of the blue...maybe he and Watt have a covers album or something cooking?
It's featured in a new TV show on Apple+. EV (and PJ) continue to do well with the licensing opportunities for their music.
Credits
Electric Guitar: Andrew Watt
Producer: Andrew Watt
Background Vocals: Andrew Watt
Keyboards, Organ: Benmont Tench
Drums: Chad Smith
Bass: Chris Chaney
Electric Guitar: Eddie Vedder
Vocals: Eddie Vedder
Acoustic Guitar: Glen Hansard
Background Vocals: Glen Hansard
Unknown: John Burton
Electric Guitar: Josh Klinghoffer
Background Vocals: Josh Klinghoffer
Unknown: Paul LaMalfa
Composer, Writer: Tom Petty
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 12:23 pm
by Strat
Also I have a feeling this is a touched up version from the earthlings show in LA with tench.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 3:14 pm
by dprival78
Strat wrote:Also I have a feeling this is a touched up version from the earthlings show in LA with tench.
i think you're right
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 3:15 pm
by VinylGuy
Yeah seems difficult to think it’s a recent recording; most of those guys are touring
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 3:24 pm
by Thurman Murman
May as well just fully embrace it and release a covers album at this point.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 3:25 pm
by Strat
Wouldn't hate them releasing that entire LA show. That was an incredible night. Wonderful theater.
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Fri August 09, 2024 3:36 pm
by VinylGuy
Yeah I would love a live release of that tour
Re: Save it for Later - EV
Posted: Sat August 10, 2024 11:09 am
by wease
Strat wrote:Also I have a feeling this is a touched up version from the earthlings show in LA with tench.
Not saying this isn’t the case, but if it were, wouldn’t they know know what John Burton and Paul LaMalfa played or did instead of listing them as “Unknown” in the credits?