Red Mosquito

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the mother is dead.

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

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B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

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It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

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B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

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It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

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It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

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B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

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It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

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It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

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So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

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It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

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It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

I've been talking about this with a friend today.

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So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

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Yeah, my feeling is that they know she's sick in that scene and that she won't be around much longer, but she's really sitting there. She's not a ghost. Which means, she dies before Ted starts telling this whole big story to his kids.

Part of me hopes it's a red herring. After all of this, I just want to see Ted happy. But I think it's a bold move, and I respect it, if that's where we're heading.

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

Spoiler: show

It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

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It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

I've been talking about this with a friend today.

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So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

Spoiler: show

Yeah, my feeling is that they know she's sick in that scene and that she won't be around much longer, but she's really sitting there. She's not a ghost. Which means, she dies before Ted starts telling this whole big story to his kids.

Part of me hopes it's a red herring. After all of this, I just want to see Ted happy. But I think it's a bold move, and I respect it, if that's where we're heading.

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Like I said, I doubt they go much deeper into this and just leave it open to speculation.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

Spoiler: show

It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

Spoiler: show

It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

I've been talking about this with a friend today.

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So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

Spoiler: show

Yeah, my feeling is that they know she's sick in that scene and that she won't be around much longer, but she's really sitting there. She's not a ghost. Which means, she dies before Ted starts telling this whole big story to his kids.

Part of me hopes it's a red herring. After all of this, I just want to see Ted happy. But I think it's a bold move, and I respect it, if that's where we're heading.

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Like I said, I doubt they go much deeper into this and just leave it open to speculation.

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I like that. I'd be more than okay with that kind of ambiguous thing.

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

Spoiler: show

It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

Spoiler: show

It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

I've been talking about this with a friend today.

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So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

Spoiler: show

Yeah, my feeling is that they know she's sick in that scene and that she won't be around much longer, but she's really sitting there. She's not a ghost. Which means, she dies before Ted starts telling this whole big story to his kids.

Part of me hopes it's a red herring. After all of this, I just want to see Ted happy. But I think it's a bold move, and I respect it, if that's where we're heading.

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Like I said, I doubt they go much deeper into this and just leave it open to speculation.

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I like that. I'd be more than okay with that kind of ambiguous thing.

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Yeah I'd be fine with that too. They don't have time to introduce a crazy twist at this point, so I'd rather they just didn't.

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So if she's dead by the time Ted starts telling the story to the kids, why did he make the story about himself? I can see the mother being dead, and Ted wanting to sit down and impart the tale of how they fell in love to their kids so they have a stronger sense of her. But if that's the case, why is Ted telling the story of his twenties and ending when he meets her, instead of starting the story with when they first met and ending when the kids are born or something? Wouldn't that make more sense if the point is to give the kids a sense of who their dead mother is and how she fit into their family?

cutuphalfdead wrote:Interesting point I read in an article this morning regarding the theory:

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So if she's dead by the time Ted starts telling the story to the kids, why did he make the story about himself? I can see the mother being dead, and Ted wanting to sit down and impart the tale of how they fell in love to their kids so they have a stronger sense of her. But if that's the case, why is Ted telling the story of his twenties and ending when he meets her, instead of starting the story with when they first met and ending when the kids are born or something? Wouldn't that make more sense if the point is to give the kids a sense of who their dead mother is and how she fit into their family?

cutuphalfdead wrote:Interesting point I read in an article this morning regarding the theory:

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So if she's dead by the time Ted starts telling the story to the kids, why did he make the story about himself? I can see the mother being dead, and Ted wanting to sit down and impart the tale of how they fell in love to their kids so they have a stronger sense of her. But if that's the case, why is Ted telling the story of his twenties and ending when he meets her, instead of starting the story with when they first met and ending when the kids are born or something? Wouldn't that make more sense if the point is to give the kids a sense of who their dead mother is and how she fit into their family?

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That it is a good point. I guess it depends on what the overall moral of the thing is. Maybe he's not trying to give them a better sense of her or who she was or any of that. Maybe it's more about how sometimes it takes a lot of wrong turns to find your path, and there's no guarantee that path isn't a culd-a-sac eventually. But, in the end, that's not what matters. It's about the time you do have. Something like that. I don't know. But there is probably a way to spin it where it makes more sense.

But if she's dead, Ted looks like a pretty giant asshole for going on and on and on about Robin in this story. Unless, there is some mega twist where the mother dies and Barney dies and Ted still ends up marrying Robin.

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

Spoiler: show

It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

Spoiler: show

It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

I've been talking about this with a friend today.

Spoiler: show

So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

Spoiler: show

Yeah, my feeling is that they know she's sick in that scene and that she won't be around much longer, but she's really sitting there. She's not a ghost. Which means, she dies before Ted starts telling this whole big story to his kids.

Part of me hopes it's a red herring. After all of this, I just want to see Ted happy. But I think it's a bold move, and I respect it, if that's where we're heading.

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Like I said, I doubt they go much deeper into this and just leave it open to speculation.

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I like that. I'd be more than okay with that kind of ambiguous thing.

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Yeah I'd be fine with that too. They don't have time to introduce a crazy twist at this point, so I'd rather they just didn't.

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durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

cutuphalfdead wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

B wrote:I don't think I paid very much attention last night.

In the episode

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The Mother says something to the affect of, "Is it really that surprising?" (in reference to Robin's Mother showing up) "What kind of Mother misses her daughter's wedding?" At which point Ted starts to cry and she comforts him and asks him to tell her another story. Couple that with her comments about life moving forward and how worried she is about Ted and his tendency to live in the past, seems like they're setting up that the Mother is dead or is about to die at the point in the future when Ted began telling this story to his kids. Maybe not. Could be a red herring. But it sure felt that way to me last night. I totally teared up and felt a weight in my chest. Maybe I'm projecting.

Spoiler: show

It would be infinitely lame if the show spent 10 years building up to a major downer like that.

Spoiler: show

It could be beautiful. And IF that's the direction they're going, I'm glad they introduced the idea now, as opposed to blindsiding people and dropping that bomb in the finale. As it is, they can still have the emotional heartbreak and the happy ending, upbeat finale coexist. So it was smart to do it now, if that's the end game. But, yes, I agree. It's playing with fire. They could be ruining the show and any rewatchability.

I've been talking about this with a friend today.

Spoiler: show

So if Ted starts crying at that comment, does that mean he's talking to her ghost right there, or she's terminally ill and knows she won't live to see her daughter's wedding?

My theory is that they're pretty much just fucking with us and leaving open ended questions based on fan (and some cast member) theories. The show ends with the meeting of the mother, and I suspect they'll leave it at that and what happens to these characters years down the line will not be addressed and left open to interpretation.

Also, how can we know for sure she's dead if someone doesn't check her pulse and then nod disapprovingly?

Spoiler: show

Yeah, my feeling is that they know she's sick in that scene and that she won't be around much longer, but she's really sitting there. She's not a ghost. Which means, she dies before Ted starts telling this whole big story to his kids.

Part of me hopes it's a red herring. After all of this, I just want to see Ted happy. But I think it's a bold move, and I respect it, if that's where we're heading.

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Like I said, I doubt they go much deeper into this and just leave it open to speculation.

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I like that. I'd be more than okay with that kind of ambiguous thing.

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Yeah I'd be fine with that too. They don't have time to introduce a crazy twist at this point, so I'd rather they just didn't.

Why do I think she's an orphan by the time Ted meets her? And Ted's a crybaby so ... could that not explain it?