Re: Government Shutdown
Posted: Thu October 03, 2013 1:17 pm
Guys, the obstructionists aren't the political veterans.
True, but putting party politics ahead of avoiding default risk is something the veterans are suppose to help prevent.cutuphalfdead wrote:Guys, the obstructionists aren't the political veterans.
broken iris wrote:On a side note unrelated to internet memes, a lot of the federal groups I work with are just giving up at this point and planning on this lasting past the 17th.
Writing a budget is hard. If all you do is pass continuing resolutions, you can just blame it on whoever wrote the last budget. How many years ago was that?Electromatic wrote:broken iris wrote:On a side note unrelated to internet memes, a lot of the federal groups I work with are just giving up at this point and planning on this lasting past the 17th.
I don't think the business leaders responsible for thier campaign funding are going to allow a default, but then again maybe everyone is resolved to losing thier office anyway.
This all said, a balanced budget amendment (or even a budget amendment) that required congress to have a budget passed by a certain date and the failure of which requred a conclaveesque sequester of congress until they pass such a budget would make sense.
All this is brought on by stupid ass continuing resolutions.
The best case of this would be to not restart without a budget. They should be going line item right now in a private session.

"The script is still being written," said Mark Zandi of Moody's Analytics. "I don't see any evidence Obamacare is impacting the job market." N. Gregory Mankiw, a Harvard economist who worked in President George W. Bush's administration, agreed. Asked how much the Affordable Care Act had affected the economy so far, he said, "Probably not a whole lot." Zandi, a former economic advisor to the McCain/Palin campaign, struggles to understand Republican talking points about the law undermining the economy. "I'm not really sure what they're looking at when they say that," he said. "I'm perplexed."
Same. A lot of people who have a long-term disability and not enough money to pay for it are fucked in America.dimejinky99 wrote:Is this block part of the Republicans agenda against universal healthcare, or health/insurance companies who fund them?
And can anyone explain to me wtf is the Republicans problem with everyone having access to affordable healthcare?
I don't live there and I'm not judging but even I know the US is not a country you want to be sick in or have an accident in.
Why is it like that and how did it come about?
If anyone has some recommended reading on the history of it all, I'd be grateful.
elliseamos wrote:the main reason conservatives/republicans don't want obamacare is because they don't want an expansion of social services. they already don't like the idea of using tax dollars to fund medicare, social security, welfare, and food stamps (among many other things that "redistribute" wealth), so they view a mandate for all americans to have insurance (either on their own or paid for by the government) as an overreach of the federal government.
how we got here?
- Spoiler: show
The defense budget is ~$675 Billion on the books. So, yeah, that's about a day's worth.dimejinky99 wrote: Is it true congress approved a $2.5 billion spend in military contracts the same night this healthcare thing went up to the hill?
broken iris wrote:The defense budget is ~$675 Billion on the books. So, yeah, that's about a day's worth.dimejinky99 wrote: Is it true congress approved a $2.5 billion spend in military contracts the same night this healthcare thing went up to the hill?

Like all defense contracts, the primary purpose it serves is a make work project. Killing brown people is rather secondary to the ultimate goal of employing Americans. That's $80,000 worth of stimulus in the districts that manufacture components.dimejinky99 wrote:broken iris wrote:The defense budget is ~$675 Billion on the books. So, yeah, that's about a day's worth.dimejinky99 wrote: Is it true congress approved a $2.5 billion spend in military contracts the same night this healthcare thing went up to the hill?
Fuck.
I saw a meme today. And true or not, it's pretty frightening
no sense trying to talk about shrinking government when we've got justified killing like this here post! U-S-A U-S-Asimple schoolboy wrote:Like all defense contracts, the primary purpose it serves is a make work project. Killing brown people is rather secondary to the ultimate goal of employing Americans. That's $80,000 worth of stimulus in the districts that manufacture components.dimejinky99 wrote:broken iris wrote:The defense budget is ~$675 Billion on the books. So, yeah, that's about a day's worth.dimejinky99 wrote: Is it true congress approved a $2.5 billion spend in military contracts the same night this healthcare thing went up to the hill?
Fuck.
I saw a meme today. And true or not, it's pretty frightening
Mundane government functions such as say, passing a budget or the more obtuse reconciliation are rarely greeted by cheers of "U-S-A U-S-A".elliseamos wrote:no sense trying to talk about shrinking government when we've got justified killing like this here post! U-S-A U-S-Asimple schoolboy wrote:Like all defense contracts, the primary purpose it serves is a make work project. Killing brown people is rather secondary to the ultimate goal of employing Americans. That's $80,000 worth of stimulus in the districts that manufacture components.dimejinky99 wrote:broken iris wrote:The defense budget is ~$675 Billion on the books. So, yeah, that's about a day's worth.dimejinky99 wrote: Is it true congress approved a $2.5 billion spend in military contracts the same night this healthcare thing went up to the hill?
Fuck.
I saw a meme today. And true or not, it's pretty frightening
Sounds to me like corporate welfare.simple schoolboy wrote: Like all defense contracts, the primary purpose it serves is a make work project. Killing brown people is rather secondary to the ultimate goal of employing Americans. That's $80,000 worth of stimulus in the districts that manufacture components.

1) i'm no teacher, but i'm pretty sure you need the edits i've added to make this grammatically correct.simple schoolboy wrote:Mundane government functions, such aselliseamos wrote:no sense trying to talk about shrinking government when we've got justified killing like this here post! U-S-A U-S-Asimple schoolboy wrote:Like all defense contracts, the primary purpose it serves is a make work project. Killing brown people is rather secondary to the ultimate goal of employing Americans. That's $80,000 worth of stimulus in the districts that manufacture components.dimejinky99 wrote:broken iris wrote:The defense budget is ~$675 Billion on the books. So, yeah, that's about a day's worth.dimejinky99 wrote: Is it true congress approved a $2.5 billion spend in military contracts the same night this healthcare thing went up to the hill?
Fuck.
I saw a meme today. And true or not, it's pretty frightening
say,passing a budget or the more obtuse reconciliation, are rarely greeted by cheers of "U-S-A U-S-A".