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zeb wrote:As soon as you declare that you don't like The Beatles then the rest of your opinions about music immediately become questionable.

The Beatles are objectively amazing.

'She's leaving home' is my favourite. Now I'm getting out of here before there's blood on the carpet.

Sarah. wrote:'She's leaving home' is my favourite.

Excellent song.

Soma. wrote:You posted 300+ times in the LB hype thread.

I don't see what that has to do with this though...

The Beatles were obviously far more sonically adventurous and groundbreaking, as were many other bands. Both bands (and many other bands) were far more influential in every way possible. And if that's the main thing that gets you off, that's awesome. But for some of us that's only one element of a much larger equation, and probably not even the most significant one

There are maybe only a handful of artists in the history of popular music that have music that has engaged my emotions and sense of self and have connected to my specific set of human experiences the way Pearl Jam's finest material has. I've been exposed to the entire Beatles catalog my entire life, and there's nothing in it that makes me deal better with being in my own skin the way something like Corduroy or Present Tense or I Got Shit does, and that definitely counts for something. So while I don't doubt that plenty of discerning music fans do find there to be vast majesty of riches in the back catalog of the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or whoever (and I do acknowledge that all of these acts have material that I do enjoy), their respective equations don't add up to even a portion of what the equations put forth by Pearl Jam or the Smiths or Bruce Springsteen or PJ Harvey or the Clash do.

Lament wrote:

Soma. wrote:You posted 300+ times in the LB hype thread.

I don't see what that has to do with this though...

The Beatles were obviously far more sonically adventurous and groundbreaking, as were many other bands. Both bands (and many other bands) were far more influential in every way possible. And if that's the main thing that gets you off, that's awesome. But for some of us that's only one element of a much larger equation, and probably not even the most significant one

There are maybe only a handful of artists in the history of popular music that have music that has engaged my emotions and sense of self and have connected to my specific set of human experiences the way Pearl Jam's finest material has. I've been exposed to the entire Beatles catalog my entire life, and there's nothing in it that makes me deal better with being in my own skin the way something like Corduroy or Present Tense or I Got Shit does, and that definitely counts for something. So while I don't doubt that plenty of discerning music fans do find there to be vast majesty of riches in the back catalog of the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or whoever (and I do acknowledge that all of these acts have material that I do enjoy), their respective equations don't add up to even a portion of what the equations put forth by Pearl Jam or the Smiths or Bruce Springsteen or PJ Harvey or the Clash do.

This is a great post.

Lament wrote:There are maybe only a handful of artists in the history of popular music that have music that has engaged my emotions and sense of self and have connected to my specific set of human experiences the way Pearl Jam's finest material has. I've been exposed to the entire Beatles catalog my entire life, and there's nothing in it that makes me deal better with being in my own skin the way something like Corduroy or Present Tense or I Got Shit does, and that definitely counts for something. So while I don't doubt that plenty of discerning music fans do find there to be vast majesty of riches in the back catalog of the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or whoever (and I do acknowledge that all of these acts have material that I do enjoy), their respective equations don't add up to even a portion of what the equations put forth by Pearl Jam or the Smiths or Bruce Springsteen or PJ Harvey or the Clash do.

I used to be you.

durdencommatyler wrote:If you're allowed to condescend in such a generalized way, then I'll go ahead and say it's a fact that the only reason people claim to not like the Beatles is that they're just being brats and rebelling against something for the sake of it. If what you say is true, then it's also true that people who dislike the Beatles aren't listening to the Beatles. They never have. They made up their minds before they took the time.

BurtReynolds wrote:Even claiming that The Beatles are just ok isn't enough to keep Beatles fans from foaming at the mouth, so I dont think its the same.

Apparently so, since if you'd read my first post here, I have no problem being up front with what material from the Beatles I do enjoy. But I'm just rebelling by only liking some of their material and being generally indifferent to them for the most part.

BurtReynolds wrote:Even claiming that The Beatles are just ok isn't enough to keep Beatles fans from foaming at the mouth, so I dont think its the same.

Who's foaming, though?

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Even claiming that The Beatles are just ok isn't enough to keep Beatles fans from foaming at the mouth, so I dont think its the same.

Who's foaming, though?

heh are you serious?

Soma. wrote:Burt is the shit, all things considered.

Most improved board personality, in my book. Absolutely.

zeb wrote:As soon as you declare that you don't like The Beatles then the rest of your opinions about music immediately become questionable.

The Beatles are objectively amazing.

Whats your favorite Beatles song and whats so objectively amazing about it?

Stip made this obvious troll bait thread and then ducked out immediately. That sonuvabitch.

BurtReynolds wrote:

zeb wrote:As soon as you declare that you don't like The Beatles then the rest of your opinions about music immediately become questionable.

The Beatles are objectively amazing.

Whats your favorite Beatles song and whats so objectively amazing about it?

Gauntlet. I see it. There on the floor.

BurtReynolds wrote:Stip made this obvious troll bait thread and then ducked out immediately. That sonuvabitch.

He's just sitting there watching the wheels go round and round

harmless wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

zeb wrote:As soon as you declare that you don't like The Beatles then the rest of your opinions about music immediately become questionable.

The Beatles are objectively amazing.

Whats your favorite Beatles song and whats so objectively amazing about it?

Gauntlet. I see it. There on the floor.

Whatever he says I'm gonna say it sucks. watch.

Thejambi wrote:

Lament wrote:

Soma. wrote:You posted 300+ times in the LB hype thread.

I don't see what that has to do with this though...

The Beatles were obviously far more sonically adventurous and groundbreaking, as were many other bands. Both bands (and many other bands) were far more influential in every way possible. And if that's the main thing that gets you off, that's awesome. But for some of us that's only one element of a much larger equation, and probably not even the most significant one

There are maybe only a handful of artists in the history of popular music that have music that has engaged my emotions and sense of self and have connected to my specific set of human experiences the way Pearl Jam's finest material has. I've been exposed to the entire Beatles catalog my entire life, and there's nothing in it that makes me deal better with being in my own skin the way something like Corduroy or Present Tense or I Got Shit does, and that definitely counts for something. So while I don't doubt that plenty of discerning music fans do find there to be vast majesty of riches in the back catalog of the Beatles or Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or whoever (and I do acknowledge that all of these acts have material that I do enjoy), their respective equations don't add up to even a portion of what the equations put forth by Pearl Jam or the Smiths or Bruce Springsteen or PJ Harvey or the Clash do.

This is a great post.

Thanks man. For what it's worth, I realize I left in a reference to "both bands" in the first paragraph from when I had a Led Zeppelin reference in there with the Beatles, so the "both bands" in question aren't the Beatles & Pearl Jam, in case it reads like that.

BurtReynolds wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Even claiming that The Beatles are just ok isn't enough to keep Beatles fans from foaming at the mouth, so I dont think its the same.

Who's foaming, though?

heh are you serious?

Well... ?

God I wish Lament posted in OB more often. I guess he would if he had the thirst for new music to warrant such forays. He writes so well.

I'll come back to this. Real life intervenes.

I'm about to eat a bagel.