Re: 2013 Official Bootlegs
Posted: Tue November 19, 2013 1:59 am
Really disappointed there is no London or Wrigley as of right now.
I am a Matt apologist, and I tend to believe that if the band plays the songs faster it's more likely due to a band-wide tendency rather than the will of one man... but note the crassness with which the song speeds up once Matt starts hitting the snare. Jeez, dude!hlniv wrote:Faithfull
Of The Girlridleybradout wrote:Thanks for posting those![]()
How did Of The Girl and Speed of Sound, uh, sound?
"We wear our hearts on our sleeves! AAAGH!"hlniv wrote:Of The Girlridleybradout wrote:Thanks for posting those![]()
How did Of The Girl and Speed of Sound, uh, sound?
Speed Of Sound
oh... and while I'm at it (can't sleep), everyone should hear this Whipping and the Pirates dude who introduces it....
Whipping
SPORTS!!
"I WILL PITCH MY BALLS OFF FOR YOU!!!! DO IT!!! DO IT!!!"E.H. Ruddock wrote:"We wear our hearts on our sleeves! AAAGH!"hlniv wrote: Whipping
SPORTS!!
I was listening to it ON the radio as I am a SiriusXM subscriber. No, it's not perfect lossless audio but it's enough to tell this: Eliason improved the recording methods and mixing the first time around (in '11/'12), and at the very least, the mix is even better now. I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.ridleybradout wrote:You can really tell it sounds that good from a radio rip?twoheadedboy wrote:Wow, this Pittsburgh boot sounds INCREDIBLE. I would argue it's the best sounding live release they've ever done as a part of a series (i.e. Atlanta/Orpheum/Give Way/LO2L/LO10L etc. don't count). I would say that if Give Way is a 10.0, this is a 9.75. But man, Ed is REALLY struggling on the old stuff...![]()
Looking forward to hearing those samples hlniv
I have a pretty nice car stereo, so I make a lot of critical determinations in regards to audio from that.hlniv wrote:I don't know that I got the same initial reaction on the quality of the mix, it certainly is good. I haven't really given it a proper listen yet, only went through and cut the tracks. I did think the Lightning Bolt tunes sounded superb, though.ridleybradout wrote:You can really tell it sounds that good from a radio rip?twoheadedboy wrote:Wow, this Pittsburgh boot sounds INCREDIBLE. I would argue it's the best sounding live release they've ever done as a part of a series (i.e. Atlanta/Orpheum/Give Way/LO2L/LO10L etc. don't count). I would say that if Give Way is a 10.0, this is a 9.75. But man, Ed is REALLY struggling on the old stuff...![]()
Looking forward to hearing those samples hlniv
It will be later in the night EST before I get these up.
I've listened through this enough now to have an opinion - I think it is on par, but maybe slightly less desirable than the '12 bootlegs. Definitely similar, and I'm trying to account for the fact that I had a radio rip. I did notice a lot of abrupt mix changes at the beginning of songs, it was a little choppy when I was cutting the tracks. It's like they really threw this first one together. I have a feeling that these will improve as the releases continue.twoheadedboy wrote:I have a pretty nice car stereo, so I make a lot of critical determinations in regards to audio from that.hlniv wrote:I don't know that I got the same initial reaction on the quality of the mix, it certainly is good. I haven't really given it a proper listen yet, only went through and cut the tracks. I did think the Lightning Bolt tunes sounded superb, though.ridleybradout wrote:You can really tell it sounds that good from a radio rip?twoheadedboy wrote:Wow, this Pittsburgh boot sounds INCREDIBLE. I would argue it's the best sounding live release they've ever done as a part of a series (i.e. Atlanta/Orpheum/Give Way/LO2L/LO10L etc. don't count). I would say that if Give Way is a 10.0, this is a 9.75. But man, Ed is REALLY struggling on the old stuff...![]()
Looking forward to hearing those samples hlniv
It will be later in the night EST before I get these up.
If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.twoheadedboy wrote:I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.Birds in Hell wrote:If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.twoheadedboy wrote:I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
I've never listened to Sirius but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair amount of processing applied to the signal at their end, that's usually the case with radio broadcasts. I'd expect the original recording will sound much better but we'll see soon enough.hlniv wrote:We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.Birds in Hell wrote:If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.twoheadedboy wrote:I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
SiriusXM broadcasts are brickwalled by default, I'm pretty sure that's been established, like any radio source. And, unless there's a fully digital way to rip the broadcasts, you're converting a smashed radio broadcast back to digital files with an analog step, which is less than ideal. So I'm sure the legit FLAC's will be higher quality than a D>additionally compressed and brickwalled>A>D rip.hlniv wrote:We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.Birds in Hell wrote:If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.twoheadedboy wrote:I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
All true. The FLACs should be much improved.twoheadedboy wrote:SiriusXM broadcasts are brickwalled by default, I'm pretty sure that's been established, like any radio source. And, unless there's a fully digital way to rip the broadcasts, you're converting a smashed radio broadcast back to digital files with an analog step, which is less than ideal. So I'm sure the legit FLAC's will be higher quality than a D>additionally compressed and brickwalled>A>D rip.hlniv wrote:We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.Birds in Hell wrote:If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.twoheadedboy wrote:I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.
Yeah, they definitely put a shit ton of processing on before it hits the air.Birds in Hell wrote:I've never listened to Sirius but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair amount of processing applied to the signal at their end, that's usually the case with radio broadcasts. I'd expect the original recording will sound much better but we'll see soon enough.hlniv wrote:We'll see with the FLACs, but the Sirius rip certainly looked mashed down a fair bit when I was cutting the tracks from the recording. I don't think it sounds quite as good as say, the Amsterdam shows from last year. But, this was the first, and it seems it was put together a little hastily in my opinion. Should get better as the releases roll in.Birds in Hell wrote:If the 2011-2012 shows are any indication, Brett seems to retain a respectable amount of dynamics in the mix these days.twoheadedboy wrote:I also don't detect that these are hugely brickwalled, though they probably are to some extent.
Certainly more than 2003, I find those largely unlistenable because of how compressed they sound.