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Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 5:28 am
by VinylGuy
matt reeder wrote:"Spin the Black Circle" from Saratoga is about the best thing ever. It's easily the best live version from the Matt Cameron era I've heard and maybe the best period. Actually, all the Vitalogy tracks from the 2000 tour sound amazing. There's something about the dark energy of the 2000 era that suits the Vitalogy material really well. My favorite ever versions of "Better Man", "Immortality" and "Whipping" also come from this tour, and there are some outstanding versions of "Tremor Christ", "Nothingman" and "Not For You" as well.
Immortality sounded awesome in that tour....but for me, some of the Binaural material is incredible..specially Matt´s drums on Rival, the Philadelphia version is great.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 6:53 pm
by Wendy Carlos's Twin
matt reeder wrote:"Spin the Black Circle" from Saratoga is about the best thing ever.
The whole first part of that show is non-stop insane.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 8:57 pm
by Birds in Hell
VinylGuy wrote:matt reeder wrote:"Spin the Black Circle" from Saratoga is about the best thing ever. It's easily the best live version from the Matt Cameron era I've heard and maybe the best period. Actually, all the Vitalogy tracks from the 2000 tour sound amazing. There's something about the dark energy of the 2000 era that suits the Vitalogy material really well. My favorite ever versions of "Better Man", "Immortality" and "Whipping" also come from this tour, and there are some outstanding versions of "Tremor Christ", "Nothingman" and "Not For You" as well.
Immortality sounded awesome in that tour....
I think Toronto is the only version where Ed didn't majorly blank on the lyrics.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:23 pm
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:VinylGuy wrote:matt reeder wrote:"Spin the Black Circle" from Saratoga is about the best thing ever. It's easily the best live version from the Matt Cameron era I've heard and maybe the best period. Actually, all the Vitalogy tracks from the 2000 tour sound amazing. There's something about the dark energy of the 2000 era that suits the Vitalogy material really well. My favorite ever versions of "Better Man", "Immortality" and "Whipping" also come from this tour, and there are some outstanding versions of "Tremor Christ", "Nothingman" and "Not For You" as well.
Immortality sounded awesome in that tour....
I think Toronto is the only version where Ed didn't majorly blank on the lyrics.
Yeah I remember looking for a 2000 version of Immortality for a mix I made a few years ago and Ed was just awful on every one I tried.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:44 pm
by Kevin Davis
matt reeder wrote:My favorite ever versions of "Better Man", "Immortality" and "Whipping" also come from this tour
The "Romanza" intro to "Better Man" is a big seller for me.
I think Ed makes it through "Immortality" flub-free on homecoming night in Seattle, and also a few times in Europe.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:46 pm
by Norah
Where the fuck were you guys with these Immortality suggestions when I was putting my mix together? I had a thread for it and everything!
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:46 pm
by Norah
Kevin Davis wrote:The "Romanza" intro to "Better Man" is a big seller for me.
Loved this so much.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 12:17 am
by Kevin Davis
cutuphalfdead wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:The "Romanza" intro to "Better Man" is a big seller for me.
Loved this so much.
Thankfully, for the next tour, they realized they needed to up the ante so they responded by canning the classical guitar and replacing it with a first-verse audience singalong.
This band simply does not disappoint!
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 1:15 am
by red calzolaio
Kevin Davis wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Kevin Davis wrote:The "Romanza" intro to "Better Man" is a big seller for me.
Loved this so much.
Thankfully, for the next tour, they realized they needed to up the ante so they responded by canning the classical guitar and replacing it with a first-verse audience singalong.
This band simply does not disappoint!
i'm all for a singalong, but i woulda rather they kept playing Romanza for sure.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:35 am
by Norah
I hate the first verse singalong so much.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 2:54 am
by red calzolaio
cutuphalfdead wrote:I hate the first verse singalong so much.
it's terrible. won't listen to it on the boots.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:09 pm
by yofismom
I was all psyched to listen to the Saratoga show about a month ago and was really underwhelmed. In fact, I think Ed sounds pretty bad on everything I've heard from this tour. ''94-'95, 98 and '03 are all better for me. But I certainly haven't listened to the whole tour or anything.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 6:25 pm
by Norah
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 7:58 pm
by gpn2296
yofismom wrote:I was all psyched to listen to the Saratoga show about a month ago and was really underwhelmed. In fact, I think Ed sounds pretty bad on everything I've heard from this tour. ''94-'95, 98 and '03 are all better for me. But I certainly haven't listened to the whole tour or anything.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Sat May 04, 2013 11:25 pm
by yofismom
Yeah I guess I'll give it another listen.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Sun May 05, 2013 3:31 am
by matt reeder
yofismom wrote:I was all psyched to listen to the Saratoga show about a month ago and was really underwhelmed. In fact, I think Ed sounds pretty bad on everything I've heard from this tour. ''94-'95, 98 and '03 are all better for me. But I certainly haven't listened to the whole tour or anything.
You didn't like the best versions of "Spin the Black Circle" and "Rearviewmirror" ever played?
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 3:23 am
by littlecomment
yofismom wrote:I was all psyched to listen to the Saratoga show about a month ago and was really underwhelmed. In fact, I think Ed sounds pretty bad on everything I've heard from this tour. ''94-'95, 98 and '03 are all better for me. But I certainly haven't listened to the whole tour or anything.
I'm very biased as the Pittsburgh date was my very first show, but was nonetheless surprised that this one did not receive the Ape Man seal of approval.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Mon May 06, 2013 7:01 pm
by yofismom
matt reeder wrote:yofismom wrote:I was all psyched to listen to the Saratoga show about a month ago and was really underwhelmed. In fact, I think Ed sounds pretty bad on everything I've heard from this tour. ''94-'95, 98 and '03 are all better for me. But I certainly haven't listened to the whole tour or anything.
You didn't like the best versions of "Spin the Black Circle" and "Rearviewmirror" ever played?
Not sure I think it's the best STBC but I just listened to RVM, and you're right, it's scorching.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Tue May 07, 2013 12:01 pm
by Hatfield
littlecomment wrote:yofismom wrote:I was all psyched to listen to the Saratoga show about a month ago and was really underwhelmed. In fact, I think Ed sounds pretty bad on everything I've heard from this tour. ''94-'95, 98 and '03 are all better for me. But I certainly haven't listened to the whole tour or anything.
I'm very biased as the Pittsburgh date was my very first show, but was nonetheless surprised that this one did not receive the Ape Man seal of approval.
You have every right to be biased. Pittsburgh 2000 is one of the best nights for this band from any tour.
I'll have to go back and listen to Saratoga. My memory has it as a GREAT show.
Re: Let's Talk About The 2000 Tour
Posted: Sun May 12, 2013 12:16 pm
by Kevin Davis
Listening to Toronto right now...Ed is doing some very Sonic Youth-y things on rhythm guitar behind the "Immortality" solo. I miss when PJ were this subtle...
