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Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 2:54 am
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:What would you say The Dock of the Bay has in common with the Motown songs you know?
Black people.
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Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 2:57 am
by Lament
stip wrote:Fun fact. Type dock of the bay into Google and one of the auto complete searches is 'dock of the bay Motown'
I just tried this on my computer and "Dock of the Bay Motown" didn't come up as an auto complete search until I had entered "Dock of the bay Motow." My laptop is more discerning than yours.

Does your laptop like Backspacer?

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 2:58 am
by stip
darth_vedder wrote:Nice pick stip. Along with "At My Most Beautiful", "Then He Kissed Me" was also played. For two people with damn near opposite PJ taste, we sure do seem to cross paths outside of PJ.
Well, most people would just see as as pearl jam fans and collapse our differences. :). Besides, I don't think my taste in pearl jam says a ton about my musical tastes or habits outside of pearl jam

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 2:59 am
by darth_vedder
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Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:00 am
by stip
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:Fun fact. Type dock of the bay into Google and one of the auto complete searches is 'dock of the bay Motown'
I just tried this on my computer and "Dock of the Bay Motown" didn't come up as an auto complete search until I had entered "Dock of the bay Motow." My laptop is more discerning than yours.

Does your laptop like Backspacer?
Probably. iPads aren't very cutting edge anymore

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:00 am
by stip
Kaius wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:What would you say The Dock of the Bay has in common with the Motown songs you know?
Black people.
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Which Motown recording artist is this gentleman?

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:01 am
by stip
Lament, what would you say is the major difference between, say stax and Motown? What should I be listening for?

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:06 am
by Norah
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:Fun fact. Type dock of the bay into Google and one of the auto complete searches is 'dock of the bay Motown'
I just tried this on my computer and "Dock of the Bay Motown" didn't come up as an auto complete search until I had entered "Dock of the bay Motow."
I got it at the second o.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:12 am
by Lament
stip wrote:Lament, what would you say is the major difference between, say stax and Motown? What should I be listening for?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motown_sound#Motown_Sound

This is a pretty good breakdown of the Motown sound...

"Motown specialized in a type of soul music it referred to with the trademark "The Motown Sound". Crafted with an ear towards pop appeal, the Motown Sound typically used tambourines to accent the back beat, prominent and often melodic electric bass-guitar lines, distinctive melodic and chord structures, and a call-and-response singing style that originated in gospel music. Pop production techniques such as the use of orchestral string sections, charted horn sections, and carefully arranged background vocals were also used. Complex arrangements and elaborate, melismatic vocal riffs were avoided.[11] Motown producers believed steadfastly in the "KISS principle" (keep it simple, stupid)."

Interesting that Smokey Robinson doesn't believe it's a real thing. But perhaps that has to do with how much of the Motown sound is because of him. In some ways Motown was more like it's own act than it was a label. Between the in house songwriting teams (especially Holland-Dozier-Holland) and the in house band (The Funk Brothers), you had a lot of the same people involved with almost everything the label put out in the classic-era.

I would say The Dock of the Bay doesn't embody any of the Motown techniques. The bassline serves a rhythmic purpose as opposed to a melodic purpose. It's a pretty raw, stripped back arrangement compared to the lush, layered arrangements of most Motown songs from that period. There's no backing vocals or harmonies. It pursues a meditative calm as opposed to the high drama of most Motown classics. Like I said, it's more like a lazy Stones song than it is a Motown song.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:13 am
by Lament
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:Fun fact. Type dock of the bay into Google and one of the auto complete searches is 'dock of the bay Motown'
I just tried this on my computer and "Dock of the Bay Motown" didn't come up as an auto complete search until I had entered "Dock of the bay Motow."
I got it at the second o.
Your computers are so white.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:14 am
by Norah
Lament wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:Fun fact. Type dock of the bay into Google and one of the auto complete searches is 'dock of the bay Motown'
I just tried this on my computer and "Dock of the Bay Motown" didn't come up as an auto complete search until I had entered "Dock of the bay Motow."
I got it at the second o.
Your computers are so white.
the second in motown, not in the entire search term

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:16 am
by Lament
Oh, ok.

Well, now I'm suspicious of Stip's search results being so dramatically different than ours.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:24 am
by Kaius
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:
stip wrote:Fun fact. Type dock of the bay into Google and one of the auto complete searches is 'dock of the bay Motown'
I just tried this on my computer and "Dock of the Bay Motown" didn't come up as an auto complete search until I had entered "Dock of the bay Motow."
I got it at the second o.
Your computers are so white.
the second in motown, not in the entire search term
Same here

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:26 am
by Lament
Stip, let's hear some answers.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 3:36 am
by Kaius
The blackest music stip listens to is Hootie and the Blowfish

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:15 am
by stip
Lament wrote:Stip, let's hear some answers.
I tried it again and got Chud's result. So the only answer must be that I type faster than I read

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:19 am
by super nintendo chalmers
The Night They Drove Old Dixie Down

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 7:49 am
by Heathen
Lament has found himself a new target.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:14 am
by Lament
It's cause I'm still butthurt over his assessment in the mixtape thread that Jenny Lewis should have someone else writing her songs for her.

Re: Best Decade Tournament Part I: 60s: SNC Round I

Posted: Fri May 30, 2014 8:25 am
by ABNorman
"'Dock of the bay' motown" gets 1.5 million hits. "'Dock of the bay' Stax" gets 61800.

The plot thickens.