Red Mosquito

matt reeder wrote:

mastaflatch wrote:

bada wrote:I wrote something about Tom Waits but chickened out.

Let me do this then: Most Tom Waits ballads bore the fuck out of me.

How about this: Tom Waits annoys the fuck out of me. You aren't the only one.

I can't get into him at all

He sounds like he is smashed outta his mind in every song

Unpopular opinions about Tom Waits are unpopular for a reason...

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

surfndestroy wrote:Sleater-Kinney, lauded because they're women playing rock n roll more than for the music they create. If the band was made up of three guys, they would not be near the media darlings they currently are.

That is one of the stupidest loads of horseshit I've heard in ages.

*most irresponsible

check your privilege

what if sleater-kinney was a hot chick and her dress was falling out

The Smiths are shit.

verb_to_trust wrote:Unpopular opinions about Tom Waits are unpopular for a reason...

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Spoiler: show

BOOM

Alright then, while we're at it, I find very little enjoyment in the collected works of Tom Waits, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, the Rolling Stones, Elvis Costello and (to a lesser extent) the Beach Boys.

At the risk of mortally offending Varis and great swathes of my fellow countrymen, I can't stand Paul Kelly.

...stunned silence...

Nothing Nirvana ever did and nothing Nirvana ever was could be described using the word "important" or the phrase "changed the world."

there's unpopular, and then there's just wrong

McParadigm wrote:Nothing Nirvana ever did and nothing Nirvana ever was could be described using the word "important" or the phrase "changed the world."

HAD THERE NOT BEEN NIRVANA WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE FOO FIGHTERS SO STFU

McParadigm wrote:Nothing Nirvana ever did and nothing Nirvana ever was could be described using the word "important" or the phrase "changed the world."

This could arguably be said about any band ever.

:shakeswithrage:

Well...Paul Kelly thinks you suck too, Speeno!

mastaflatch wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Nothing Nirvana ever did and nothing Nirvana ever was could be described using the word "important" or the phrase "changed the world."

HAD THERE NOT BEEN NIRVANA WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE FOO FIGHTERS SO STFU

Retracted. What was I thinking?

This could arguably be said about any band ever.

I agree with this. The most obvious disagreement would probably come in the form of the Beatles. But while they could be considered to be the largest worldwide cultural event in history up to that point (religion notwithstanding...the comparison to which John infamously noted), I would say that they were neither "cause" nor "important." Rather, the event that was the arrival of the Beatles helped to mile-mark the beginning of youth as a dominant cultural force, as well as jumpstart the music industry into something more than just "a part of showbiz" and a good way to vet future movie stars (which is what it was thought of at the time) and give the first taste of how the expanse of mass-media was going to change the way entertainment was processed and responded to.

Basically, I'm saying it set the stage for Justin Bieber and the Kiss Army. I don't quite know who to blame for Ten Club candles.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:Nothing Nirvana ever did and nothing Nirvana ever was could be described using the word "important" or the phrase "changed the world."

This could arguably be said about any band ever.

except Buddy Bolden's Band

i like the Bush thread

Stereopathetic Soulmanure might be my favorite Beck album.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Stereopathetic Soulmanure might be my favorite Beck album.

no it isn't

McParadigm wrote:I agree with this. The most obvious disagreement would probably come in the form of the Beatles. But while they could be considered to be the largest worldwide cultural event in history up to that point (religion notwithstanding...the comparison to which John infamously noted), I would say that they were neither "cause" nor "important." Rather, the event that was the arrival of the Beatles helped to mile-mark the beginning of youth as a dominant cultural force, as well as jumpstart the music industry into something more than just "a part of showbiz" and a good way to vet future movie stars (which is what it was thought of at the time) and give the first taste of how the expanse of mass-media was going to change the way entertainment was processed and responded to.

They were also the best at what they did and they were always a step ahead of everyone else, at least up until Sgt. Pepper. That always helps.