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Alex wrote:a lot of wilco fans say that being there is their favorite wilco album because they want to look cool and subversive.

What exactly is cool and subversive about saying your favorite Wilco album is Being There?

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I don't know if I want to live in a world in which IR is considered superior to OC, KA, Amnesiac, and HTTT. That's just wrong.

I wouldn't say it's necessarily superior to all of those records, though I'd rank it miles ahead of OK Computer.

I tend to group Kid A, Amnesiac and In Rainbows together as I think they're all excellent with King of Limbs ranking slightly below.

HTTT is something of a mixed bag for me, it has some really superb material but parts of the album (particularly the first half) feel like an unwelcome throwback to their Bends/OK Computer approach.

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Alex wrote:a lot of wilco fans say that being there is their favorite wilco album because they want to look cool and subversive.

What exactly is cool and subversive about saying your favorite Wilco album is Being There?

everyone picks yankee hotel foxtrot. choosing being there lets people know that you liked them when they were still tapping into the alt-country roots of uncle tupelo. the consensus pick regarding wilco is that they're better when they're exploratory, and it's consensus because it's true. but there's a birds in hell in every crowd, chris.

Alex wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Alex wrote:a lot of wilco fans say that being there is their favorite wilco album because they want to look cool and subversive.

What exactly is cool and subversive about saying your favorite Wilco album is Being There?

everyone picks yankee hotel foxtrot. choosing being there lets people know that you liked them when they were still tapping into the alt-country roots of uncle tupelo. the consensus pick regarding wilco is that they're better when they're exploratory, and it's consensus because it's true. but there's a birds in hell in every crowd, chris.

I like A Ghost Is Born.

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Alex wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Alex wrote:a lot of wilco fans say that being there is their favorite wilco album because they want to look cool and subversive.

What exactly is cool and subversive about saying your favorite Wilco album is Being There?

everyone picks yankee hotel foxtrot. choosing being there lets people know that you liked them when they were still tapping into the alt-country roots of uncle tupelo. the consensus pick regarding wilco is that they're better when they're exploratory, and it's consensus because it's true. but there's a birds in hell in every crowd, chris.

I like A Ghost Is Born.

nothing wrong with that. it's YHF, followed by AGIB, for me.

I've never listened to a Wilco album.

Alex wrote:but there's a birds in hell in every crowd, chris.

Thing is, Alex, I am constantly tortured by self-doubt about all of my opinions; part of me always suspects that everyone else has far greater insight and understanding than I do.

I imagine it would probably be quite nice to derive a sense of self-satisfaction from the superiority of my own tastes but I guarantee you that I don't.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never listened to a Wilco album.

Me either. Not all the way through, anyway. I've listened to bits and pieces here and there but nothing has ever grabbed me, perhaps they're just not my thing.

Birds in Hell wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never listened to a Wilco album.

Me either. Not all the way through, anyway. I've listened to bits and pieces here and there but nothing has ever grabbed me, perhaps they're just not my thing.

Same here. "Jesus, etc." is fine, I guess. That's about all I can say.

Alex wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Alex wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

Alex wrote:a lot of wilco fans say that being there is their favorite wilco album because they want to look cool and subversive.

What exactly is cool and subversive about saying your favorite Wilco album is Being There?

everyone picks yankee hotel foxtrot. choosing being there lets people know that you liked them when they were still tapping into the alt-country roots of uncle tupelo. the consensus pick regarding wilco is that they're better when they're exploratory, and it's consensus because it's true. but there's a birds in hell in every crowd, chris.

I like A Ghost Is Born.

nothing wrong with that. it's YHF, followed by AGIB, for me.

Because we're ranking Radiohead albums, here are mine:

AGIB
YHF
Summerteeth
Being There
Sky Blue Sky
AM
The Whole Love
Wilco (The Album) (besides Bull Black Nova, what a God-forsaken abortion of an album that turned out to be)

Guys, Being There is Wilco's best album. Then Summerteeth. Jay Bennett and Ken Coomer was where it's at. YHF is a good in too.

LetMeSleep wrote:Guys, Being There is Wilco's best album. Then Summerteeth. Jay Bennett and Ken Coomer was where it's at. YHF is a good in too.

Jay Bennett wrote a lot of YHF, so it's OK to like that one just as much.

By the way, Being There should've been one album -- there's a lot of waste.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

Birds in Hell wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:I've never listened to a Wilco album.

Me either. Not all the way through, anyway. I've listened to bits and pieces here and there but nothing has ever grabbed me, perhaps they're just not my thing.

Same here. "Jesus, etc." is fine, I guess. That's about all I can say.

Nels Cline is pretty much my favourite musician in the world and even that isn't enough to get me interested in Wilco.

Hey do you guys like Wilco

LoathedVermin72 wrote:Hey do you guys like Wilco

This question probably should be asked in the Wilco thread.

Hey do you guys like Radiohead

Chris_H_2 wrote:

LetMeSleep wrote:Guys, Being There is Wilco's best album. Then Summerteeth. Jay Bennett and Ken Coomer was where it's at. YHF is a good in too.

Jay Bennett wrote a lot of YHF, so it's OK to like that one just as much.

I'm well aware of that. It doesn't have the roll of the preceding two though. I'm more a fame of Coomers drumming.

big, big fan of the original Spiders (Kidsmoke)