Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote:

Mine wrote:I don't think anybody has even a slightest idea why he was fired honestly. My impression is that they didn't see him as a good fit for the band and/or simply didn't like having him around.

It's always struck me as weird that a group of musicians who weren't high school besties with a rich personal history, who were barely getting along with each other at the time anyway, and whose collective bond would never really be all that great in the years to come would feel the need to point one guy out and be like, "That's the fucker...that's the one that needs to go."

I remember reading something a long time ago about him suggesting Daughter as a single during the Vs sessions, and the room getting awkwardly quiet. Like he'd done something so fundamentally wrong and poorly judged that nobody could even talk about it, or find a way to save the conversation. And then the band released Daughter as a single. What a bunch of weirdos.

Brett wrote:

Mine wrote:Dave's importance in PJ's music is absurdly exaggerated though, considering he barely made any song writing contributions to the band regardless of how good a drummer he is.

Why are his songwriting contributions of any relevance to the role he played for the band. Many bands have drummers suited to their music who make no writing contributions whatsoever. Besides, aren't you the guy who has frequently referenced Vedder as being the only member of the band with any songwriting skill, while the others can only come up with riffs and "ideas" at best? In that case, wouldn't pretty much every member of the band be overrated in terms of their "importance"?

I think Dave A. was a competent enough drummer whose style fit well with Pearl Jam's early music. The road they began to head down during parts of Vitalogy and beyond wasn't fit for him, no, but I believe it's been referenced before that if he had stayed on with the band, they probably wouldn't have lasted much longer anyways. Jack was said to be a calming and centering force for them during a tumultuous time. There are strengths and weaknesses for everyone who has sat behind the kit for this band, and unfortunately not one of them is ably suited to effectively tackle all parts of the band's catalog.

McParadigm wrote:It's always struck me as weird that a group of musicians who weren't high school besties with a rich personal history, who were barely getting along with each other at the time anyway, and whose collective bond would never really be all that great in the years to come would feel the need to point one guy out and be like, "That's the fucker...that's the one that needs to go."

96583UP wrote:maybe him and Ed's problem was that one late night after a ton of partying they had beefy man sex and Ed fired him to hide his love away

bodysnatcher wrote:Maybe no one in the band really knew how to pronounce his last name

Birds in Hell wrote: I used to think there had to be some other, deeper reason why Dave was fired and why they remain so uncomfortable associating him with the band to this day, eg. he was a party to some kind of personal drama, had been involved in something shady, but nope, I'm pretty sure they just dealt with the situation poorly and don't enjoy being reminded of it. If another reason existed, I'm sure it would've come to light by now.