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Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:53 pm
by epilogue
It's because it's a comedy, chud. War is serious business, don't you know.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:53 pm
by LoathedVermin72
cutuphalfdead wrote:The intrigue in Strangelove wasn't taking place during a period of peace that led up to an act of war, it was taking place during a war that led up to a drastic escalation of that war.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Cold War is the Canada of wars. Hardly counts.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:54 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:It's because it's a comedy, chud. War is serious business, don't you know.
Not my argument at all.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:54 pm
by Norah
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:It's because it's a comedy, chud. War is serious business, don't you know.
Not my argument at all.
That argument might be better than the one you have.

War is going on all throughout Strangelove, just like in The Great Escape.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:55 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:It's because it's a comedy, chud. War is serious business, don't you know.
Not my argument at all.
Jokes and blah, buddy. Jokes and blah and etc.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:55 pm
by Norah
Also, you say it hardly counts. That means it does count, but barely. So you agree it's a war movie.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:55 pm
by LoathedVermin72
cutuphalfdead wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:It's because it's a comedy, chud. War is serious business, don't you know.
Not my argument at all.
That argument might be better than the one you have.

War is going on all throughout Strangelove, just like in The Great Escape.
LoathedVermin72 wrote:The Cold War is the Canada of wars. Hardly counts.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:56 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Why am I arguing about this?

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:56 pm
by epilogue
I have no idea.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:57 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I don't count it, so I didn't include on my list. But others can if they want. That's cool. It's all good.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:57 pm
by Norah
Just admit that you were wrong and we can move on.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:58 pm
by LoathedVermin72
cutuphalfdead wrote:Just admit that you were wrong and we can move on.
I count it under the same category as "espionage-y" stuff. Lots of intrigue that's set during war, but for the sake of this list, I'm not counting that as a "war movie."

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 9:59 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Just admit that you were wrong and we can move on.
I count it under the same category as "espionage-y" stuff. Lots of intrigue that's set during war, but for the sake of this list, I'm not counting that as a "war movie."
So, then, and I swear I'm not being difficult, I just want an understood lexicon, can you define a "war movie"?

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:01 pm
by LoathedVermin72
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Just admit that you were wrong and we can move on.
I count it under the same category as "espionage-y" stuff. Lots of intrigue that's set during war, but for the sake of this list, I'm not counting that as a "war movie."
So, then, and I swear I'm not being difficult, I just want an understood lexicon, can you define a "war movie"?
LoathedVermin72 wrote:This was insanely difficult to narrow down to ten. Not in order, and not counting espionage-y stuff, pre-gun wars, or sci-fi:

49th Parallel
Band of Brothers
Castle Keep
The Deer Hunter
Gone with the Wind
Hell in the Pacific
The Heroes of Telemark
Paths of Glory
The Thin Red Line
Where Eagles Dare

Long list of honorable mentions:
Apocalypse Now
Ashes and Diamonds
Battle of the Bulge
Battleground
Beach Red
Between Heaven and Hell
The Big Red One
The Bridge on the River Kwai
Force 10 from Navarone
Full Metal Jacket
Fury
A Generation
Grand Illusion
The Great Escape
The Green Berets
Hope and Glory
Lawrence of Arabia
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Lions for Lambs
Men Behind the Sun
Men in War
Patton
The Pianist
Raintree County
Rambo
Tora! Tora! Tora!

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:11 pm
by @SkitchP
Does Inglorius Basterds count? Cause that's on my list, even if it doesn't count.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:12 pm
by @SkitchP
McParadigm wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I like Gettysburg and Catch-22.

Glory #BecauseBraugher
Of the two, I think Gettysburg impacted me more because it was gripping without deviating from accuracy. Aside from the core problem every Civil War movie has ("we don't want it to be a gorefest, so we'll have people just fall down when they die and thus thoroughly understate the human significance and personal impact of every single moment"), the detail to which Gettysburg captured what actually happened is astounding...and it did so without losing the powerful emotional core that a historical drama movie needs to have. It was pretty much one shot of Lee having diarrhea away from perfect historical accuracy, and yet it has an almost Shakespearean tragic core to it.

Glory was a good movie, admittedly with a few aspects that haven't aged well, but it bent and adjusted too much of what was already an engaging story that had no reason to be adjusted.

Both have great soundtracks. Both have hilarious fake facial hair. One has purple and green explosions, though.

Guys. Do you realize with this post we actually got to watch McP gush? Seriously. It's really weird.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:18 pm
by Alex
@SkitchP wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
McParadigm wrote:I like Gettysburg and Catch-22.

Glory #BecauseBraugher
Of the two, I think Gettysburg impacted me more because it was gripping without deviating from accuracy. Aside from the core problem every Civil War movie has ("we don't want it to be a gorefest, so we'll have people just fall down when they die and thus thoroughly understate the human significance and personal impact of every single moment"), the detail to which Gettysburg captured what actually happened is astounding...and it did so without losing the powerful emotional core that a historical drama movie needs to have. It was pretty much one shot of Lee having diarrhea away from perfect historical accuracy, and yet it has an almost Shakespearean tragic core to it.

Glory was a good movie, admittedly with a few aspects that haven't aged well, but it bent and adjusted too much of what was already an engaging story that had no reason to be adjusted.

Both have great soundtracks. Both have hilarious fake facial hair. One has purple and green explosions, though.

Guys. Do you realize with this post we actually got to watch McP gush? Seriously. It's really weird.
color me surprised that mcparadigm is a stickler for historical accuracy in fiction

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:32 pm
by epilogue
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:Just admit that you were wrong and we can move on.
I count it under the same category as "espionage-y" stuff. Lots of intrigue that's set during war, but for the sake of this list, I'm not counting that as a "war movie."
So, then, and I swear I'm not being difficult, I just want an understood lexicon, can you define a "war movie"?
LoathedVermin72 wrote:This was insanely difficult to narrow down to ten. Not in order, and not counting espionage-y stuff, pre-gun wars, or sci-fi:

49th Parallel
Band of Brothers
Castle Keep
The Deer Hunter
Gone with the Wind
Hell in the Pacific
The Heroes of Telemark
Paths of Glory
The Thin Red Line
Where Eagles Dare

Long list of honorable mentions:
Apocalypse Now
Ashes and Diamonds
Battle of the Bulge
Battleground
Beach Red
Between Heaven and Hell
The Big Red One
The Bridge on the River Kwai
Force 10 from Navarone
Full Metal Jacket
Fury
A Generation
Grand Illusion
The Great Escape
The Green Berets
Hope and Glory
Lawrence of Arabia
The Life and Death of Colonel Blimp
Lions for Lambs
Men Behind the Sun
Men in War
Patton
The Pianist
Raintree County
Rambo
Tora! Tora! Tora!
That's not an answer, friend. Or rather, it's an answer equivalent to "because I say so."

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:32 pm
by epilogue
@SkitchP wrote:Does Inglorius Basterds count? Cause that's on my list, even if it doesn't count.
I'd say of course it does. But that probably means vermin says no. So until Pete weighs in, there's no way to know for sure.

Re: Top 10 of the genre: War Movies

Posted: Tue December 16, 2014 10:35 pm
by LoathedVermin72
I give up. Dr. Strangelove is a war movie. I'll just go fuck myself. :)