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Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 2:07 pm
by stip
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:I think with Mike it's not that some of his solos aren't good, but that he's failed to come up with good complementary guitar parts on so many songs.

Solos that aren't good:
Corduroy - studio version - "Is this thing on?"
Comeback - Wait till I hit my pedal.
Life Wasted - justified fade out.
Alive (sorry) "Yes I'm still playing that same lick"

are you talking about the solos, or what he is playing during the rest of the song?
Solos in the list. .

I don't even know how to begin to respond to that...

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 2:11 pm
by Strat
who was/is blenheim augstine? What was your user name at the hold board? I hate not knowing.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 5:27 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
Strat wrote:who was/is blenheim augstine? What was your user name at the hold board? I hate not knowing.
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Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 5:35 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:I think with Mike it's not that some of his solos aren't good, but that he's failed to come up with good complementary guitar parts on so many songs.

Solos that aren't good:
Corduroy - studio version - "Is this thing on?"
Comeback - Wait till I hit my pedal.
Life Wasted - justified fade out.
Alive (sorry) "Yes I'm still playing that same lick"

are you talking about the solos, or what he is playing during the rest of the song?
Solos in the list. .

I don't even know how to begin to respond to that...
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Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 5:45 pm
by Oh, Jimmy
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:I think with Mike it's not that some of his solos aren't good, but that he's failed to come up with good complementary guitar parts on so many songs.

Solos that aren't good:
Corduroy - studio version - "Is this thing on?"
Comeback - Wait till I hit my pedal.
Life Wasted - justified fade out.
Alive (sorry) "Yes I'm still playing that same lick"

are you talking about the solos, or what he is playing during the rest of the song?
Solos in the list. .

I don't even know how to begin to respond to that...
I think there are some good points.

Corduroy solo is nothing special and the way he just tears into it live is much better than the studio take, which can barely be classified as a solo.

The delay on Comeback sounds like something a person plugging into a delay pedal for the first time would come up with

Life Wasted is one of the better solos he's applied to an uptempo track, but he was probably running out of steam. I bet there's some tasteless wanking on the tape shortly after the fadeout.

Alive is a classic solo. It's easily his trademark, but I could see a gripe against it that's it's pretty unoriginal.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 6:07 pm
by stip
Oh, Jimmy wrote:
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:
stip wrote:
Blenheim Augustine wrote:I think with Mike it's not that some of his solos aren't good, but that he's failed to come up with good complementary guitar parts on so many songs.

Solos that aren't good:
Corduroy - studio version - "Is this thing on?"
Comeback - Wait till I hit my pedal.
Life Wasted - justified fade out.
Alive (sorry) "Yes I'm still playing that same lick"

are you talking about the solos, or what he is playing during the rest of the song?
Solos in the list. .

I don't even know how to begin to respond to that...
I think there are some good points.

Corduroy solo is nothing special and the way he just tears into it live is much better than the studio take, which can barely be classified as a solo.

The delay on Comeback sounds like something a person plugging into a delay pedal for the first time would come up with

Life Wasted is one of the better solos he's applied to an uptempo track, but he was probably running out of steam. I bet there's some tasteless wanking on the tape shortly after the fadeout.

Alive is a classic solo. It's easily his trademark, but I could see a gripe against it that's it's pretty unoriginal.

we know what the full life wasted solo sounds like. It's excellent all the way through

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 9:19 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
Oh, Jimmy wrote:I think there are some good points.

Corduroy solo is nothing special and the way he just tears into it live is much better than the studio take, which can barely be classified as a solo.

The delay on Comeback sounds like something a person plugging into a delay pedal for the first time would come up with

Life Wasted is one of the better solos he's applied to an uptempo track, but he was probably running out of steam. I bet there's some tasteless wanking on the tape shortly after the fadeout.

Alive is a classic solo. It's easily his trademark, but I could see a gripe against it that's it's pretty unoriginal.
This is pretty much my critique - out of all the versions of Corduroy I've heard the solo on the album is non-existent - it doesn't stop that track being phenomenal on the album but it does make you wonder how out of it he was. If you haven't listened to the track in a while listen to it again - where you expect the solo to start ripping absolutely nothing happens, and then you wait and then there's a riff and then it fades out.

The first few seconds of the Life Wasted solo are pretty good but then he just starts playing those terrible double and triple stops that he has a habit of doing while he thinks what to play next - sort of like someone singing um um um um.

I listened to Alive again just in case I was being ridiculous but I have always felt that the solo he plays before the outro solo is enough for the song. The outro solo is just superfluous and just sounds like he is playing every lick he learnt with a few open E string drones. It doesn't help that the studio version rhythm section is one of the banal, un-rocking and un-grooving sections of music Pearl Jam have created.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 9:52 pm
by Strat
Im pretty certain it was a conscience decision to not have a solo on corduroy. Its not like he was "uh, i dont know what to play here". SO im not sure Corduroy can be lumped into this with your argument.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 10:04 pm
by Birds in Hell
Strat wrote:Im pretty certain it was a conscience decision to not have a solo on corduroy. Its not like he was "uh, i dont know what to play here". SO im not sure Corduroy can be lumped into this with your argument.
Yeah, I'm with Strat regarding Corduroy.

Mike played a 12-string electric on the song originally. During the 1995 tour, Stone played some solo-esque stuff during the outro while Mike chimed away on his Rickenbacker. Mike didn't start playing a solo during the outro until some time in 1996, I think.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Tue March 26, 2013 11:04 pm
by Blenheim Augustine
Birds in Hell wrote:
Strat wrote:Im pretty certain it was a conscience decision to not have a solo on corduroy. Its not like he was "uh, i dont know what to play here". SO im not sure Corduroy can be lumped into this with your argument.
Yeah, I'm with Strat regarding Corduroy.

Mike played a 12-string electric on the song originally. During the 1995 tour, Stone played some solo-esque stuff during the outro while Mike chimed away on his Rickenbacker. Mike didn't start playing a solo during the outro until some time in 1996, I think.
Hmmm...Mike's the one playing the little lick in the outro - although he looks like he can barely play an E chord at that point in time.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Wed March 27, 2013 3:47 pm
by VinylGuy
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Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Wed March 27, 2013 3:56 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
:heartbeat: :luv:

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Wed March 27, 2013 5:46 pm
by stip
how many new lanegan songs are on this thing?

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Wed March 27, 2013 6:32 pm
by VinylGuy
stip wrote:how many new lanegan songs are on this thing?
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Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Mon April 01, 2013 3:12 am
by Norah

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Mon April 01, 2013 3:12 am
by Birds in Hell
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Ugh, so good.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Mon April 01, 2013 3:13 am
by Norah
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Ugh, so good.
Right!?

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Mon April 01, 2013 3:15 am
by knee tunes
Birds in Hell wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Ugh, so good.
it sounds like yoko ono in the bathroom.

:haha: not that there's anything wrong with that.

cuz there's not. :|

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Mon April 01, 2013 3:15 am
by Birds in Hell
Yoko rules.

Re: Let's talk about the best Mike McCready solos

Posted: Mon April 01, 2013 3:16 am
by Norah
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