Red Mosquito

BurtReynolds wrote:If Vitalogy was the only album I liked, I'd give it 100 points too. I almost split my points between two albums.

Honest curiosity; if you only like two PJ albums, what brought you to a PJ forum and what has kept you around long enough to have 13,000+ posts?

PHATJ wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:If Vitalogy was the only album I liked, I'd give it 100 points too. I almost split my points between two albums.

Honest curiosity; if you only like two PJ albums, what brought you to a PJ forum and what has kept you around long enough to have 13,000+ posts?

Simple. I REALLY like those two albums.

lol

But in the end they only accounted for a little over half the points. I like a few songs on four of the others. But if I could only listen to Yield and No Code from here on, I'd be cool with it.

BurtReynolds wrote:But in the end they only accounted for a little over half the points. I like a few songs on four of the others. But if I could only listen to Yield and No Code from here on, I'd be cool with it.

That's still 6,500 plus posts about two albums. I have less then a 1/4 of that and I like 9/10 of PJs albums. either you love those albums more that anyone should or I am really lazy.

No that's points. Most of my posts are disgusted and outraged replies to LoathedVermin posts about movies and music. Probably about 75%.

The rest are about stoner and post rock. I don't listen to grunge.

If you told me Vitalogy was the only Pearl Jam album I could listen to for the rest of my life, I'd have no problem with that. If you told me I could listen to every Pearl Jam album BUT Vitalogy, I'd be pissed off. It's the only Pearl Jam album I've listened to since the end of 2013. It embodies every single thing that I ever loved about the band and everything that made them great to me. It was the album that started my obsession over two decades ago and is the singular piece that (looking back upon said obsession) justifies all of it for me.

So I have no problem giving Vitalogy all 100 points.

I understand the resistance, now.

Lament wrote:If you told me Vitalogy was the only Pearl Jam album I could listen to for the rest of my life, I'd have no problem with that. If you told me I could listen to every Pearl Jam album BUT Vitalogy, I'd be pissed off. It's the only Pearl Jam album I've listened to since the end of 2013. It embodies every single thing that I ever loved about the band and everything that made them great to me. It was the album that started my obsession over two decades ago and is the singular piece that (looking back upon said obsession) justifies all of it for me.

So I have no problem giving Vitalogy all 100 points.

Man, if I had spent 20 years of my life being obsessed with something, and after those 20 years the only thing that stuck with me was the one thing I liked to begin with, I'd have a hard time thinking of that obsession as "justified" as opposed to "a huge waste of time and resources" -- but hey, I already gave out my 100 points.

I will buy points. Who wants to sell me their points?

Kevin Davis wrote:

Lament wrote:If you told me Vitalogy was the only Pearl Jam album I could listen to for the rest of my life, I'd have no problem with that. If you told me I could listen to every Pearl Jam album BUT Vitalogy, I'd be pissed off. It's the only Pearl Jam album I've listened to since the end of 2013. It embodies every single thing that I ever loved about the band and everything that made them great to me. It was the album that started my obsession over two decades ago and is the singular piece that (looking back upon said obsession) justifies all of it for me.

So I have no problem giving Vitalogy all 100 points.

Man, if I had spent 20 years of my life being obsessed with something, and after those 20 years the only thing that stuck with me was the one thing I liked to begin with, I'd have a hard time thinking of that obsession as "justified" as opposed to "a huge waste of time and resources" -- but hey, I already gave out my 100 points.

I only like one GnR album, but thats enough to be a fan. Pretty much everything else about them sucks, but how does still liking Appetite translate into a waste of time a resources?

BurtReynolds wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

Lament wrote:If you told me Vitalogy was the only Pearl Jam album I could listen to for the rest of my life, I'd have no problem with that. If you told me I could listen to every Pearl Jam album BUT Vitalogy, I'd be pissed off. It's the only Pearl Jam album I've listened to since the end of 2013. It embodies every single thing that I ever loved about the band and everything that made them great to me. It was the album that started my obsession over two decades ago and is the singular piece that (looking back upon said obsession) justifies all of it for me.

So I have no problem giving Vitalogy all 100 points.

Man, if I had spent 20 years of my life being obsessed with something, and after those 20 years the only thing that stuck with me was the one thing I liked to begin with, I'd have a hard time thinking of that obsession as "justified" as opposed to "a huge waste of time and resources" -- but hey, I already gave out my 100 points.

I only like one GnR album, but thats enough to be a fan. Pretty much everything else about them sucks, but how does still liking Appetite translate into a waste of time a resources?

I only like one album by lots of artists, but none that I've then gone onto be "obsessed with" for 20 years.

Kevin Davis wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Kevin Davis wrote:

Lament wrote:If you told me Vitalogy was the only Pearl Jam album I could listen to for the rest of my life, I'd have no problem with that. If you told me I could listen to every Pearl Jam album BUT Vitalogy, I'd be pissed off. It's the only Pearl Jam album I've listened to since the end of 2013. It embodies every single thing that I ever loved about the band and everything that made them great to me. It was the album that started my obsession over two decades ago and is the singular piece that (looking back upon said obsession) justifies all of it for me.

So I have no problem giving Vitalogy all 100 points.

Man, if I had spent 20 years of my life being obsessed with something, and after those 20 years the only thing that stuck with me was the one thing I liked to begin with, I'd have a hard time thinking of that obsession as "justified" as opposed to "a huge waste of time and resources" -- but hey, I already gave out my 100 points.

I only like one GnR album, but thats enough to be a fan. Pretty much everything else about them sucks, but how does still liking Appetite translate into a waste of time a resources?

I only like one album by lots of artists, but none that I've then gone onto be "obsessed with" for 20 years.

No Code for me. OBSESSED

If I ever find myself being genuinely back "into" Pearl Jam again, maybe my attitude towards this will change. But after twenty years-plus years of immersion, I genuinely find Vitalogy (for a handful of reasons) to exist on an entirely different plain when it comes to Pearl Jam albums for me. It's like having a handfull of people you had long-term relationships with, but ultimately one you settled down and married. That doesn't mean you don't have good things to say about the people you just dated, or you don't have fond memories of them, or still like them. But in the grand scheme of things you can't really put them on the same plain as your spouse.

While every other Pearl Jam album sits well outside of my all-time top 25, Vitalogy never leaves my top 5. It doesn't sit in a universe with the rest of the PJ catalog to me. It exists in a different world with albums that justify a life-long obsession with hearing and making music. In my world, Vitalogy's peers aren't the other records Pearl Jam has made, its peers as The Holy Bible and Nebraska and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy and The Execution of All Things and Sign "O" the Times and Fear of a Black Planet and Stories From the City, Stories from the Sea and The Queen is Dead and a small group of other albums that somehow manage to resonate with my life and what's going on in it while still sparking tinges of nostalgia and memories of things go down, yet never feel dated or feel like they're relics. It's something that is so good that I could easily deal with the absence of the rest of their catalog if I still had it, and would desperately miss if I had every album BUT this one. It's somehow the only Pearl Jam album I ever want to listen to anymore, despite being the Pearl Jam album I've listened to the most in my life (probably by a lot).

So once again, I'm sorry some of you think I've ruined your little exercise here. But I'm not sorry that I feel like Vitalogy looms large enough above my entire Pearl Jam experience that I feel like it deserves all 100 points.

Isn't that the purpose of weighting this shit in the first place? So that people could apply some proportion? Otherwise, its no different than the other ranking thread.

And don't try to be objective. You'll be wrong. Just go by your favorite and how much you like them. I'd rather listen to No Code 1 time than hear LB 100 times (or any times), so shouldn't it get vastly more points?

We need decimal points!

BurtReynolds wrote:Isn't that the purpose of weighting this shit in the first place? So that people could apply some proportion? Otherwise, its no different than the other ranking thread.

Yeah, but I guess I did it wrong. I'm not allowed to like one album that much more than the rest of them.

Lament wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:Isn't that the purpose of weighting this shit in the first place? So that people could apply some proportion? Otherwise, its no different than the other ranking thread.

Yeah, but I guess I did it wrong. I'm not allowed to like one album that much more than the rest of them.

Oh, knock it off.

Thank you for having us to your dinner party. The wife and I had a truly nice time.

I really didn't mean to judge -- sorry if I caused offense, by all means listen to what you want to. But surely you can understand how that type of remark could come off as typical "I'm going to call attention to myself via an outlandish claim about how much I don't like Pearl Jam anymore" RM bullshit, yeah?

The Argonaut wrote:I understand the resistance, now.