Red Mosquito

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

bada wrote:If you are saying Jedi should have been the end of Star Wars and any continuation ruined the fairy tale then that's fine but if you are going to continue with those characters where should Han be thematically?

I don't know where they "should be" because I don't think it needed to go on. The characters and their arcs reached their conclusion. I don't need "more."

I'd stop thinking about it if you aren't interested in it. Unless you enjoy telling people they are wrong to like something then proceed.

Just a bunch of well adjusted yada yadda yadda

So LV and Burt - what was Hans character arc in the OT as you understand it?

It's easy to pretend Jaws 2-4 never happened....even though I kinda like 2.

bada wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

bada wrote:If you are saying Jedi should have been the end of Star Wars and any continuation ruined the fairy tale then that's fine but if you are going to continue with those characters where should Han be thematically?

I don't know where they "should be" because I don't think it needed to go on. The characters and their arcs reached their conclusion. I don't need "more."

I'd stop thinking about it if you aren't interested in it. Unless you enjoy telling people they are wrong to like something then proceed.

Are you guys even reading anything I'm saying?

stip wrote:So LV and Burt - what was Hans character arc in the OT as you understand it?

Nope. Apparently not.

I am. I want more clarification

They already explained it a bunch of times you just don't understand.

Strat wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The fact that you guys find it so hard to believe that Han could actually, genuinely be happily in love and not want to keep smuggling for criminals probably exposes the fundamental clash in how we're viewing this.

Nah. We do believe he could be. We do believe he was. And we do believe, and find it totally plausible and okay that things changed.

But why is that interesting to you? How is the way it was handled interesting to you? You are simply told all of this in a few lines of dialogue (because Abrams is a hack). Anything could be interesting I suppose, but this isn't. And its pretty obvious that this bare bones backstory only exists to reset the the world to pre-Jedi, so fanboys can rehash the same shit over again.

Plausibility is not the issue here. Get past that.

I hope they dont make this Han Solo movie though.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The fact that you guys find it so hard to believe that Han could actually, genuinely be happily in love and not want to keep smuggling for criminals probably exposes the fundamental clash in how we're viewing this.

Nah. We do believe he could be. We do believe he was. And we do believe, and find it totally plausible and okay that things changed.

But why is that interesting to you? How is the way it was handled interesting to you? You are simply told all of this in a few lines of dialogue (because Abrams is a hack). Anything could be interesting I suppose, but this isn't. And its pretty obvious that this bare bones backstory only exists to reset the the world to pre-Jedi, so fanboys can rehash the same shit over again.

Plausibility is not the issue here. Get past that.

Ultimately Han's role in this movie was to serve the new characters and it did it very well in my opinion.

That Han's arc was that he fell in love and settled down?

What a boring character

stip wrote:That Han's arc was that he fell in love and settled down?

What a boring character

what are you talking about?

You're not reading what they are saying Stip. You just don't get it.

that was what I found when I went looking for what LV thought Han's arc was. You haven't mentioned anything

BurtReynolds wrote:

Strat wrote:

LoathedVermin72 wrote:The fact that you guys find it so hard to believe that Han could actually, genuinely be happily in love and not want to keep smuggling for criminals probably exposes the fundamental clash in how we're viewing this.

Nah. We do believe he could be. We do believe he was. And we do believe, and find it totally plausible and okay that things changed.

But why is that interesting to you? How is the way it was handled interesting to you? You are simply told all of this in a few lines of dialogue (because Abrams is a hack). Anything could be interesting I suppose, but this isn't. And its pretty obvious that this bare bones backstory only exists to reset the the world to pre-Jedi, so fanboys can rehash the same shit over again.

Plausibility is not the issue here. Get past that.

who said it was interesting? We accept it because it is plausible and that's all that is really needed.

bada wrote:You're not reading what they are saying Stip. You just don't get it.

I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not.

Strat wrote:I hope they dont make this Han Solo movie though.

yeah, I mean I already know the guy dies so I probably won't go see this.

stip wrote:

bada wrote:You're not reading what they are saying Stip. You just don't get it.

I have no idea if you're being sarcastic or not.

I thought bada was on our side but he is doing good work in here right now. And I love his new avatar

Why is everyone making these grand assumptions about what other people are thinking? We're not even arguing about the same things anymore.