Red Mosquito

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Episode 3 takes a giant leap forward. I enjoyed 1 & 2. They didn't totally blow me away. There were more than a few clunky moments. But #3 was really great. Tense. Gorgeous. Wonderfully shot. Dripping with atmosphere. I dig it.

It's too early for you to be drinking all this vodka, Joey.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Episode 3 takes a giant leap forward. I enjoyed 1 & 2. They didn't totally blow me away. There were more than a few clunky moments. But #3 was really great. Tense. Gorgeous. Wonderfully shot. Dripping with atmosphere. I dig it.

It's too early for you to be drinking all this vodka, Joey.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Okay, yeah, we're fairly close on our opinions here. I disagree with a few points you've made but mostly we feel about the same.

It's a slow day on RM. Can you itemize your disagreements for me?

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

tragabigzanda wrote: -I think the cinematography, music, and casting (with the exceptions of Ryder and Caleb McLaughlin/"Lucas") are excellent [I'd add Modine].
-I don't agree with LV's "faux retro" comment, though I get what he's saying. But I think it's a very effective soundtrack.
-I enjoy the 80s throwback vibe of the whole production.
-I think the kids have real chemistry...
-I think the dialogue is atrocious. [I agree in general, but there are some decent moments, I think]
-I think Winona Ryder is AWFUL. Matthew Modine isn't much better, though I think that's more related to the writing for his character. Ryder's eldest son is also really over-the-top.

tragabigzanda wrote: -There are many moments like this, where the kids' natural chemistry is shattered by having them speak far more intelligently than any 12-year old I've ever known.
-I think everything with 11 is especially terrible. "Bad." "Good." "Promise." Vomit. [She's outstanding and probably my single favorite part of the show so far.]
-I agree with whoever posted that the story is held back by trying to appeal to kids. There are a lot of parts that are neither genuinely scary, nor terribly funny. It's like they're going for a Fratellis (from The Goonies) approach, but it's constantly missing the mark. [I think this comes down to expectations, though. I think people want it to be scarier or whatever but I'm not sure that was ever the point.]
-War of the Worlds is another recent example of something that managed to ride that fine line between frightening and family-friendly. This is so far off from that. [War of the Worlds is terrible]

tragabigzanda wrote:I hope season 2 focuses on Nancy's obvious eating disorder.

tragabigzanda wrote:I do want to give a nod to the cocky boyfriend. He's every 80s cocky boyfriend character rolled into one, perfectly executed.

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

dimejinky99 wrote:If you don't lim this show you're dead inside


*speaking as a child of the 80s

Steve Albini wrote:Whenever there's active promotion on the part of somebody else, whenever I see somebody all dolled up for a fancy photograph and someone's handing out flyers or whenever there's active promotion for something like that, as an imposition on my day, I hate all those people and I want them to fail. I have a visceral reaction to advertising and promotion. There's just something about salesmanship that grates on me on a very base level and I react very negatively towards it. I want those people to suffer and I want their enterprises to fail.

dimejinky99 wrote:Knew my boyfriend would love this but when I get excited about something he's usually really reluctant.

He watched episode one with me last night and was totally in by the end of it:) watched two more