Red Mosquito

McParadigm wrote: More recently, the culture warriors decided to get all wound up about The Boys. Conservatives declared the show woke and over, and review bombed it. Its viewership went up 20%.

To be fair, they made one character suddenly gay, included a pointless subplot about Starlight be shamed for having an abortion, and the big battle was an "insurrection" on "January 6th" to replace the just elected president. Not kidding on any of those.

Bi_3 wrote:the big battle was an "insurrection" on "January 6th" to replace the just elected president.

I will grant you that it is lazy to copy-paste real life into your script. But I don’t watch that show, so I don’t have a frame of reference for how this differs from previous seasons.

It always had it's preachy episodes, but conservatives (who are accustomed to ignoring liberal nonsense in entertainment) could ignore it as long as the overall writing held up. These last couple of seasons though....

BurtReynolds wrote:conservatives (who are accustomed to ignoring liberal nonsense in entertainment) could ignore it as long as the overall writing held up.

lol yeah ok

McParadigm wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:the big battle was an "insurrection" on "January 6th" to replace the just elected president.

I will grant you that it is lazy to copy-paste real life into your script. But I don’t watch that show, so I don’t have a frame of reference for how this differs from previous seasons.

Previous seasons have been clear in their "Homelander = White America" theme, but it's been part of a more interesting take on how capitalism can subvert society. I think they hit a "problem" where viewers rooted for the villains (homelander, soldier boy, black noir, etc.) and were bored with the heroes, so they had to try to force the interpretation they wanted and lost the plot (ha!) while doing so.



I agree with your main point though. If you look at the successful sci-fi shows over the last decade or so: For All Mankind, The Expanse, Foundation, Black Mirror, etc., they have very diverse casts and themes and rely on the performers and writers to present stories that are both compelling and inclusive. Understanding the unknown other is the basic plot of all sci-fi after all. This show simply did not do that and covering for the creators' poor performance with bias allegations degrades everyone involved. And that twerking video didn't help.

Bi_3 wrote:And that twerking video didn't help.

Thank you for not elaborating.

Wow, is the expanse less than ten years old? That season with Tom Jane feels like ancient history.

Bi_3 wrote:To be fair, they made one character suddenly gay,

lol they’ve had a character fucking fish for three seasons but bi’s issue is a dude being attracted to another dude after first being attracted to a woman. Ironically, that’s also bi

E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol they’ve had a character fucking fish for three seasons but bi’s issue is a dude being attracted to another dude after first being attracted to a woman. Ironically, that’s also bi

Did I have an issue with that?

Bi_3 wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol they’ve had a character fucking fish for three seasons but bi’s issue is a dude being attracted to another dude after first being attracted to a woman. Ironically, that’s also bi

Did I have an issue with that?

The fish fucking? I did!

wow the memes did not make clear that it was a show about fish fucking

blast away conservatives

McParadigm wrote:wow the memes did not make clear that it was a show about fish fucking

blast away conservatives

Laughs in JD Vance search history

Bi_3 wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol they’ve had a character fucking fish for three seasons but bi’s issue is a dude being attracted to another dude after first being attracted to a woman. Ironically, that’s also bi

Did I have an issue with that?

I haven't seen many of the later episodes, what exciting new plotlines were opened up by making that guy gay? I assume it was very relevant to the story.

BurtReynolds wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol they’ve had a character fucking fish for three seasons but bi’s issue is a dude being attracted to another dude after first being attracted to a woman. Ironically, that’s also bi

Did I have an issue with that?

I haven't seen many of the later episodes, what exciting new plotlines were opened up by making that guy gay? I assume it was very relevant to the story.

Frenchie was fucking a guy, and then remembered that he killed the guy's parents.

B wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:lol they’ve had a character fucking fish for three seasons but bi’s issue is a dude being attracted to another dude after first being attracted to a woman. Ironically, that’s also bi

Did I have an issue with that?

I haven't seen many of the later episodes, what exciting new plotlines were opened up by making that guy gay? I assume it was very relevant to the story.

Frenchie was fucking a guy, and then remembered that he killed the guy's parents.

Minor spoilers for The Boys S4:

Spoiler: show

*He suddenly and unexplainably falls out of love with Kimiko, falls in love with this dude who is an activist working for Starlight's non-profit, remembers he killed the dude's parents, becomes wracked with guilt and confesses to the murder of the dude's parents, is somehow released from jail just in time, falls back in love with Kimiko like the whole thing never happened.

Ah that classic trope.

So he’s bi, what’s the issue?

I didn't watch Season 4 of the Boys I kinda lost interest but after reading that spoiler

Spoiler: show

Frenchie being bi

it doesn't seem like a stretch. I got the feeling he was down for anything in prior seasons. Anyone who thought Homelander was the hero of the story is out of their minds.

B wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:To be fair, they made one character suddenly gay,

*surprise

blueviper wrote:

B wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:To be fair, they made one character suddenly gay,

*surprise

Suprise! No one gives a fuck!