Red Mosquito

MTG tweeted about the guy busted for leaking classified documents:

“Jake Teixeira is white, male, christian, and antiwar. That makes him an enemy to the Biden regime. And he told the truth about troops being on the ground in Ukraine and a lot more,” Greene, a member of the Homeland Security Committee, said on Twitter. "Ask yourself who is the real enemy?”

Since when was being antiwar a Republican thing?

E.H. Ruddock wrote:MTG tweeted about the guy busted for leaking classified documents:

“Jake Teixeira is white, male, christian, and antiwar. That makes him an enemy to the Biden regime. And he told the truth about troops being on the ground in Ukraine and a lot more,” Greene, a member of the Homeland Security Committee, said on Twitter. "Ask yourself who is the real enemy?”

Since when was being antiwar a Republican thing?

She is the highest of levels of karens and the stupid people of Georgia will re-elect her again

Peeps wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:MTG tweeted about the guy busted for leaking classified documents:

“Jake Teixeira is white, male, christian, and antiwar. That makes him an enemy to the Biden regime. And he told the truth about troops being on the ground in Ukraine and a lot more,” Greene, a member of the Homeland Security Committee, said on Twitter. "Ask yourself who is the real enemy?”

Since when was being antiwar a Republican thing?

She is the highest of levels of karens and the stupid people of Georgia will re-elect her again

I can't believe I keep getting shocked by this party, but how in the world can they defend this type of behavior? It's a Kafkaesque world that wing of the party has created.

They're not antiwar, they're pro-Putin.

He's really smart and has total control of his country.

elliseamos wrote:They're not antiwar, they're pro-Putin.

He's really smart and has total control of his country.

And half of ours

tragabigzanda wrote:These are bad takes. They’re neither anti-war nor pro-Putin. The foreign policy shift by the GOP is one of a marked shift from hawkish to isolationist, e.g. it’s longer in the US’s best interest to militarily intervene in every global conflict, but rather to freeze the dying empires out and let economic isolation take care of the rest.

See the link I posted just above Ruddo on this page.

I think it’s also fair to note that this is a subset of the party. It’s mostly the MAGA wing that frames this conflict in purely isolationist terms. 40% of Republicans still supported sending military aid to Ukraine as late as March, and quite a lot of Republican legislators still openly do as well (Although the 60% support for it among independents probably helps to encourage that).

And of course, the hawkishness tends to return as soon as you bring up China and Taiwan.

elliseamos wrote:They're not antiwar, they're pro-Putin.

He's really smart and has total control of his country.

Comical take.

McParadigm wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:These are bad takes. They’re neither anti-war nor pro-Putin. The foreign policy shift by the GOP is one of a marked shift from hawkish to isolationist, e.g. it’s longer in the US’s best interest to militarily intervene in every global conflict, but rather to freeze the dying empires out and let economic isolation take care of the rest.

See the link I posted just above Ruddo on this page.

I think it’s also fair to note that this is a subset of the party. It’s mostly the MAGA wing that frames this conflict in purely isolationist terms. 40% of Republicans still supported sending military aid to Ukraine as late as March, and quite a lot of Republican legislators still openly do as well (Although the 60% support for it among independents probably helps to encourage that).

And of course, the hawkishness tends to return as soon as you bring up China and Taiwan.

I think you could successfully argue that the impact on the western world of losing Taiwan to China is far greater than losing Ukraine to Russia and while Ukraine has the entire EU backing it, no one else will defend Taiwan's sovereignty.

tragabigzanda wrote:Interesting piece on Elbridge Colby, an emerging leader on conservative thinking re: foreign policy. This also would’ve fit in the deglobalization thread.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... y-00090211

I hope you're right about deglobalization (de-imperialization) being the emerging US doctrine, but I think the decrepit military-industrial complex and their lackeys in Washington will fight tooth and nail to keep us involved in foreign wars for the next few decades.

Bi_3 wrote:

McParadigm wrote:

tragabigzanda wrote:These are bad takes. They’re neither anti-war nor pro-Putin. The foreign policy shift by the GOP is one of a marked shift from hawkish to isolationist, e.g. it’s longer in the US’s best interest to militarily intervene in every global conflict, but rather to freeze the dying empires out and let economic isolation take care of the rest.

See the link I posted just above Ruddo on this page.

I think it’s also fair to note that this is a subset of the party. It’s mostly the MAGA wing that frames this conflict in purely isolationist terms. 40% of Republicans still supported sending military aid to Ukraine as late as March, and quite a lot of Republican legislators still openly do as well (Although the 60% support for it among independents probably helps to encourage that).

And of course, the hawkishness tends to return as soon as you bring up China and Taiwan.

I think you could successfully argue that the impact on the western world of losing Taiwan to China is far greater than losing Ukraine to Russia and while Ukraine has the entire EU backing it, no one else will defend Taiwan's sovereignty.

The sooner we can bring back chip manufacturing to the US, the sooner we don't have to care about that either. I do feel bad for Taiwan, but to be honest I don't think China has the ability to invade it. It's mostly sabre rattling.

BurtReynolds wrote:

elliseamos wrote:They're not antiwar, they're pro-Putin.

He's really smart and has total control of his country.

Comical take.

You're right. It was meant as a joke about how stupid MTG is.

When they go low I go stupid.

It's nonstop...

elliseamos wrote:

BurtReynolds wrote:

elliseamos wrote:They're not antiwar, they're pro-Putin.

He's really smart and has total control of his country.

Comical take.

You're right. It was meant as a joke about how stupid MTG is.

When they go low I go stupid.

This is the moronic equivalent of "they hate us because of our freedom".

Yup, still stupid.

Thanks, Burt!