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Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 4:05 pm
by JuanHamm
Higgs wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Don't rat her out to hr! Don't be a snitch. Hr is not your friend!
This. Never voluntarily engage with HR. Never.
Lenny, your rebuttal?
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 4:36 pm
by BurtReynolds
JuanHamm wrote:Higgs wrote:BurtReynolds wrote:Don't rat her out to hr! Don't be a snitch. Hr is not your friend!
This. Never voluntarily engage with HR. Never.
Lenny, your rebuttal?
Lenny lies as easily as he breathes.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 5:12 pm
by Coach
If you have a trusted contact in HR, you can ask things "off the record." But yeah, I agree you don't want to go running to the CHRO every time something happens.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 5:30 pm
by The Argonaut
It's not that complicated
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 5:39 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
I am a trusted HR.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 5:56 pm
by spike
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I am a trusted HR.
Protecting the company first, its employees second.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 6:17 pm
by wease
Our head of HR is actually quite cute.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 6:41 pm
by Bi_3
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 6:49 pm
by The Argonaut
Put nothing in writing. You've already accepted a $100 bribe. Now your goal is just to keep the cover up as quiet as possible
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 10:31 pm
by LetMeSleep
Bammer's problem is he wants to receive these gifts. And clearly has done many times in the past.
But that's not his role/position.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:07 pm
by Peeps
The Argonaut wrote:What do you mean, how do I give it back to her? Put it in an envelope and put it in her hand. If she tries to get cute again and refuse it, call her into your office and tell her why you won't accept it and put it in her hand again.
then after that give her the 100 bill
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:17 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
spike wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I am a trusted HR.
Protecting the company first, its employees second.
Flase. Sometimes your hands are tied, but I pretty much always try to do the right thing to the extent that I can.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:20 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
The Argonaut wrote:Put nothing in writing. You've already accepted a $100 bribe. Now your goal is just to keep the cover up as quiet as possible
If he doesn’t do something soon it could look as if he intended to keep it. Could still probably claim he was in the process of finding out if it is acceptable, but he may need to prove he dud reach out to someone in authority for what to do.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:38 pm
by The Argonaut
Does posting about it on RM count as reaching out to someone in authority?
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:39 pm
by Peeps
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:spike wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I am a trusted HR.
Protecting the company first, its employees second.
Flase. Sometimes your hands are tied, but I pretty much always try to do the right thing to the extent that I can.
I think it all depends on the company.
my last job our HR department was by far the most hated. the specialist in charge of our benefits some how always found the best service for her step son, not the best and cheapest for us employees. the generalist who did the low level day to day stuff couldnt be bothered to do anything and did nothing but complain. the head of the department was a complete moron. she wanted me to open our email up to craigslist emails because she sold stuff on craigslist and wanted to get updates. anytime someone had a complaint she just stared at them like a deer in headlights and never did anything.
current job thankfully i have only had one interaction with them as a HR department (i initiated it) and it was quick and painless. otherwise she has just stopped by the office and chatted several times. while i always heard the HR is for the company and not the employee but i definitely see that they do take an interest in helping us out with any questions/problems we may have
also to add i wanted to give my coworker and former boss some money at christmas as appreciation for their help throughout the year and both turned it away before my hand was even extended
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:41 pm
by The Argonaut
If you have a problem, don't go to HR. Go to your shop steward first
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:54 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
The Argonaut wrote:Does posting about it on RM count as reaching out to someone in authority?
No, but hey it is written
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:54 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
The Argonaut wrote:If you have a problem, don't go to HR. Go to your shop steward first
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Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Wed March 15, 2023 11:59 pm
by spike
Peeps wrote:The Argonaut wrote:What do you mean, how do I give it back to her? Put it in an envelope and put it in her hand. If she tries to get cute again and refuse it, call her into your office and tell her why you won't accept it and put it in her hand again.
then after that give her the 100 bill
Jerry, HR would like to see you first thing tomorrow.
Re: The New & Unproved Work/Job/Career Thread
Posted: Thu March 16, 2023 12:00 am
by lennytheweedwhacker
Peeps wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:spike wrote:lennytheweedwhacker wrote:I am a trusted HR.
Protecting the company first, its employees second.
Flase. Sometimes your hands are tied, but I pretty much always try to do the right thing to the extent that I can.
I think it all depends on the company.
my last job our HR department was by far the most hated. the specialist in charge of our benefits some how always found the best service for her step son, not the best and cheapest for us employees. the generalist who did the low level day to day stuff couldnt be bothered to do anything and did nothing but complain. the head of the department was a complete moron. she wanted me to open our email up to craigslist emails because she sold stuff on craigslist and wanted to get updates. anytime someone had a complaint she just stared at them like a deer in headlights and never did anything.
current job thankfully i have only had one interaction with them as a HR department (i initiated it) and it was quick and painless. otherwise she has just stopped by the office and chatted several times. while i always heard the HR is for the company and not the employee but i definitely see that they do take an interest in helping us out with any questions/problems we may have
also to add i wanted to give my coworker and former boss some money at christmas as appreciation for their help throughout the year and both turned it away before my hand was even extended
Thanks bro I appreciate the balanced take. I think most in my department are good about supporting the employee. I’ve had to reject more than a few actions our managers wanted to enact. More than a few heated discussions also, but always professional.
Direct managers are sometimes the hardest ones to deal with. And a lot of times you’re protecting both the company and the employee in a situation.