Red Mosquito

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:so with all of the teams that had an interest in Koetter seeming to either have their guys or not as much interest, i wonder what the chances of the Bucs hiring someone else and keeping Koetter as OC

Probably pretty slim. Even with all the interest in him, if he doesn't get hired, he knows he would be a candidate again next year. Doubt he wants to commit to an OC job long term knowing that. I think it is just a formality at this point, they are going to make him head ball coach.

i wonder why they havent gone ahead and announced his promotion yet? they have satisfied the rooney rule as of friday i think.

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:so with all of the teams that had an interest in Koetter seeming to either have their guys or not as much interest, i wonder what the chances of the Bucs hiring someone else and keeping Koetter as OC

Probably pretty slim. Even with all the interest in him, if he doesn't get hired, he knows he would be a candidate again next year. Doubt he wants to commit to an OC job long term knowing that. I think it is just a formality at this point, they are going to make him head ball coach.

i wonder why they havent gone ahead and announced his promotion yet? they have satisfied the rooney rule as of friday i think.

He may have wanted to interview with at least one of the other teams to see how much money was out there, that way he can get as much as possible out of Tampa.

Koetter deal will be finalized tonight

It'll be a disaster. You heard it here first.

turned2black wrote:It'll be a disaster. You heard it here first.

No more so than Kelly in S.F.

Well maybe he's learned, developed, and adapted since he was a head coach all those years ago. If he hasn't yeah, total disaster. At least it's an offense that suits Winston. #stayingpositive

I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

jwfocker wrote: I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

Yeah, and with Koetter being a new NFL coach, I'm hoping a lot of the selections will be more with the GM.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote: I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

Yeah, and with Koetter being a new NFL coach, I'm hoping a lot of the selections will be more with the GM.

From what I've read it looks like Licht has gained total control on roster moves or at least final say. based on his history I think that's a good thing.

jwfocker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote: I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

Yeah, and with Koetter being a new NFL coach, I'm hoping a lot of the selections will be more with the GM.

From what I've read it looks like Licht has gained total control on roster moves or at least final say. based on his history I think that's a good thing.

I don't think Koetter becoming head coach is as big a deal as who they hire for the DC position.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote: I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

Yeah, and with Koetter being a new NFL coach, I'm hoping a lot of the selections will be more with the GM.

From what I've read it looks like Licht has gained total control on roster moves or at least final say. based on his history I think that's a good thing.

I don't think Koetter becoming head coach is as big a deal as who they hire for the DC position.

I agree. I would like Mike Smith. I think he was a better DC than HC and he's worked with Koetter before. Also, Mike was a HC so he can always offer advice and guidance.

jwfocker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote: I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

Yeah, and with Koetter being a new NFL coach, I'm hoping a lot of the selections will be more with the GM.

From what I've read it looks like Licht has gained total control on roster moves or at least final say. based on his history I think that's a good thing.

I don't think Koetter becoming head coach is as big a deal as who they hire for the DC position.

I agree. I would like Mike Smith. I think he was a better DC than HC and he's worked with Koetter before. Also, Mike was a HC so he can always offer advice and guidance.

Is he doing anything right now?

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

jwfocker wrote: I am relieved that Lovie will not be making any roster decisions. That dude bombed on literally every selection he made while Licht has been on fire with his selections.

Yeah, and with Koetter being a new NFL coach, I'm hoping a lot of the selections will be more with the GM.

From what I've read it looks like Licht has gained total control on roster moves or at least final say. based on his history I think that's a good thing.

I don't think Koetter becoming head coach is as big a deal as who they hire for the DC position.

I agree. I would like Mike Smith. I think he was a better DC than HC and he's worked with Koetter before. Also, Mike was a HC so he can always offer advice and guidance.

Is he doing anything right now?

He interviewed for the Giants HC position but basically he's waiting by the phone.

Lions are keeping Caldwell and im okay with it.

So, A lot of people's opinion of Mike Smith is that... well he's not a very good head coach.

The thing is, Thomas Dimitroff sucked complete ass from 2009 - 2012 as a General Manager. (He's still living off of 2008) though the last couple of drafts have been better.

Smith with average talent won 56 games over his first 5 years and they were the least penalized team in football. They lost in the playoffs, because their talent wasn't as good as other teams. After 2012 many veterans were ushered out, and the true nature of Dimitroff personnel management has been revealed. Smith was fired, because he had some well publicised clock blunders and because he hired Mike Nolan, who probably will never work in the NFL again, because.... damn. He was awful, worst scheme in the history of mankind, Smith, was never hard enough on his coordinators, but hey, maybe that's why he's got a job now.

You're going to have a disciplined defense that doesn't commit a lot of stupid penalties, They will not beat themselves. I don't know what scheme he would run and I don't think he's ever called plays.

Good dude, Good coach, I wish him the best when he isn't playing the Falcons, both of them really. He took a lot of shit here that was unfounded.

@SkitchP wrote:Lions are keeping Caldwell and im okay with it.

i meant to post this in the nfl thread. whoops. Sorry bucs fan.

Mike Smith new DC

Bucs hire Southern Miss. head coach, Todd Monken, to be offensive coordinator. I guess since Koetter already said he was going to do the play calling, they are giving this guy a chance in the pros?

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Bucs hire Southern Miss. head coach, Todd Monken, to be offensive coordinator. I guess since Koetter already said he was going to do the play calling, they are giving this guy a chance in the pros?

he is gonna be the OC/WR coach, so im guessing he has some good experience with WRs ( i hope lol ) and he is just gonna be the OC in title and basically do what Koetter wants him to do to keep the offense in line during practice and stuff . i also think they didnt promote the QB coach because they wanted him to continue to have total focus on Jameis.

I'm guessing Steve Keim and Bruce Arians are gonna push really hard to get Glennon this off-season and they'll cut Drew Stanton instead of signing him to a "biggish" back-up deal. Arians apparently loves Glennon and rumor has it that several other teams do too. Instead of waiting for his contract to run out, I'm betting they'll give up a decent draft pick to get him. He'll sit behind Carson for a year or two, then be ready for BA's system.

turned2black wrote:I'm guessing Steve Keim and Bruce Arians are gonna push really hard to get Glennon this off-season and they'll cut Drew Stanton instead of signing him to a "biggish" back-up deal. Arians apparently loves Glennon and rumor has it that several other teams do too. Instead of waiting for his contract to run out, I'm betting they'll give up a decent draft pick to get him. He'll sit behind Carson for a year or two, then be ready for BA's system.

Yeah, it is inevitable now that Winston seems to be the right pick. And I wish Glennon nothing but the best, I really like that guy. He isn't going to throw stupid interceptions. You'd be getting a decent QB.