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Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:22 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:This one is great
With Rogue One, we’re able to return to the era of the original trilogy without pandering. It’s a story-first approach to franchise building that allows fans and creators alike to spend more time in an era they love without harping on cheesy callbacks while paying homage to what came before. Case in point: Though the former “Expanded Universe” slate was wiped clean at the start of the Disney era, Rogue One already features many subtle nods to the original theft of the Death Star plans in the beloved Dark Forces game series. What a time to be alive. –Cap Blackard
Let us now all praise the daring originality of a movie that manages to seperate itself from pandering OT trilogy nostalgia by bringing back the first Death Star, making Darth Vader your chief villian, including younger versions of secondary characters, recycling a story from a Star Wars video game, and craming frames full of storm troopers, At-Ats, and X-wings, all in the service of a story whose ultimate ending is a foregone conclusion.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:22 pm
by dimejinky99
Fair point by someone on collider talking about this film.
We've never seen actors of Mendelson and Whittakers calibre play major roles in a Star Wars film before.
No arguing with that.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:22 pm
by stip
None of which bothers me, of course.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:23 pm
by stip
dimejinky99 wrote:Fair point by someone on collider talking about this film.
We've never seen actors of Mendelson and Whittakers calibre play major roles in a Star Wars film before.
No arguing with that.
There are plenty of a-list actors in the prequels, and Peter Cushing and Alec Guinness were pretty serious deals, weren't they?
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:23 pm
by Strat
I was mostly excited about "what a great time to be alive"
So much star wars in my face and i love it.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:23 pm
by stip
Also Billy Dee Williams!
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:23 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:Strat wrote:This one is great
With Rogue One, we’re able to return to the era of the original trilogy without pandering. It’s a story-first approach to franchise building that allows fans and creators alike to spend more time in an era they love without harping on cheesy callbacks while paying homage to what came before. Case in point: Though the former “Expanded Universe” slate was wiped clean at the start of the Disney era, Rogue One already features many subtle nods to the original theft of the Death Star plans in the beloved Dark Forces game series. What a time to be alive. –Cap Blackard
Let us now all praise the daring originality of a movie that manages to seperate itself from pandering OT trilogy nostalgia by bringing back the first Death Star, making Darth Vader your chief villian, including younger versions of secondary characters, recycling a story from a Star Wars video game, and craming frames full of storm troopers, At-Ats, and X-wings, all in the service of a story whose ultimate ending is a foregone conclusion.
LV is choking to death on this somewhere. Hopefully.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:24 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
dimejinky99 wrote:Fair point by someone on collider talking about this film.
We've never seen actors of Mendelson and Whittakers calibre play major roles in a Star Wars film before.
No arguing with that.

Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:25 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Fair point by someone on collider talking about this film.
We've never seen actors of Mendelson and Whittakers calibre play major roles in a Star Wars film before.
No arguing with that.
There are plenty of a-list actors in the prequels, and Peter Cushing and Alec Guinness were pretty serious deals, weren't they?
Yeah but they were peripheral actors. Obi wan is a plot vehicle and not a huge one and Tarkin is almost throwaway
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:25 pm
by stip
Strat wrote:I was mostly excited about "what a great time to be alive"
So much star wars in my face and i love it.
Me too.

Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:26 pm
by dimejinky99
E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Fair point by someone on collider talking about this film.
We've never seen actors of Mendelson and Whittakers calibre play major roles in a Star Wars film before.
No arguing with that.

They're both good actors but not in the deep thespian sense I don't think. Especially not Lawrence Fishburn.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:33 pm
by LoathedVermin72
dimejinky99 wrote:stip wrote:Strat wrote:This one is great
With Rogue One, we’re able to return to the era of the original trilogy without pandering. It’s a story-first approach to franchise building that allows fans and creators alike to spend more time in an era they love without harping on cheesy callbacks while paying homage to what came before. Case in point: Though the former “Expanded Universe” slate was wiped clean at the start of the Disney era, Rogue One already features many subtle nods to the original theft of the Death Star plans in the beloved Dark Forces game series. What a time to be alive. –Cap Blackard
Let us now all praise the daring originality of a movie that manages to seperate itself from pandering OT trilogy nostalgia by bringing back the first Death Star, making Darth Vader your chief villian, including younger versions of secondary characters, recycling a story from a Star Wars video game, and craming frames full of storm troopers, At-Ats, and X-wings, all in the service of a story whose ultimate ending is a foregone conclusion.
LV is choking to death on this somewhere. Hopefully.

Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:34 pm
by Mecca
dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Fair point by someone on collider talking about this film.
We've never seen actors of Mendelson and Whittakers calibre play major roles in a Star Wars film before.
No arguing with that.

They're both good actors but not in the deep thespian sense I don't think. Especially not Lawrence Fishburn.
I hope that's intentional
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:37 pm
by dimejinky99
Anyone ever see that West Wing episode about NASA having a secret military shuttle?
- Spoiler: show
- rumours abound that there were actually three different Death Stars under construction at once, all at different stages of completion and one blows up at the weapons test stage and this might be a feature of the story and also explain how the empire had another so quickly by Jedi
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:44 pm
by Rangi Guy
Aside from the clunky dialogue that trailer was pretty cool. Super excited to see Ben Mendelsohn in this!
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 8:56 pm
by dimejinky99
The only reason you need to know that this film will suck without even seeing it.
It's a prequel to the original trilogy.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 9:15 pm
by McParadigm
this is getting so weird
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 9:20 pm
by BurtReynolds
you're reckless! A loose cannon! Turn in your badge and your gun!
Looks like shit.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 9:34 pm
by stip
I'll be honest, now that I've watched it a few times I like it, but I'm not in love with it. And everything I care about that I'm really excited for is the shit that is already familiar to me. I don't think this was a great trailer in terms of really making me care about the story or getting me intrigued by new characters. I'm sure the girl will be fine but given the recent spate of tween lit movie adaptations she feels familiar. Not sold on Whittiker as the wise veteran. The Asian martial arts guy feels out of place. But I'm usually happy to see shit happen in the star wars universe. More X-wings, Walkers, Star Destroyers, people going into battle--this stuff will always get me excited.
I still like the idea of the story, and I'm sure it'll be good. But I think if we're honest this trailer is just as heavily dependent on the nostalgia beats as Force Awakens. I'm not excited for any of the new things I saw.
Re: Star Wars: Rogue One
Posted: Thu April 07, 2016 9:41 pm
by dimejinky99
stip wrote:I'll be honest, now that I've watched it a few times I like it, but I'm not in love with it. And everything I care about that I'm really excited for is the shit that is already familiar to me. I don't think this was a great trailer in terms of really making me care about the story or getting me intrigued by new characters. I'm sure the girl will be fine but given the recent spate of tween lit movie adaptations she feels familiar. Not sold on Whittiker as the wise veteran. The Asian martial arts guy feels out of place. But I'm usually happy to see shit happen in the star wars universe. More X-wings, Walkers, Star Destroyers, people going into battle--this stuff will always get me excited.
I still like the idea of the story, and I'm sure it'll be good. But I think if we're honest this trailer is just as heavily dependent on the nostalgia beats as Force Awakens. I'm not excited for any of the new things I saw.
Same as.