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Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:08 pm
by dimejinky99
Green Habit wrote:Were any of the votes today on May's deal or is that referred to by another name?
No these were indicative votes on amendments. Non binding afaik
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:09 pm
by Green Habit
Anders wrote:No, none of the votes were on her deal. It has been defeated three times. Paliament has also ruled out no deal.
There is talk of her putting it up a fourth time, with a confidence vote. Government resigning if it loses again.
So if a general election is called, how long can they stave off a hard Brexit in order to run that election?
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:10 pm
by LetMeSleep
Green Habit wrote:Anders wrote:No, none of the votes were on her deal. It has been defeated three times. Paliament has also ruled out no deal.
There is talk of her putting it up a fourth time, with a confidence vote. Government resigning if it loses again.
So if a general election is called, how long can they stave off a hard Brexit in order to run that election?
My guess would be 12 months then depends on the EU agreeing an extension. Pretty much only an election or 2nd PV would suffice.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:11 pm
by Anders
Green Habit wrote:Anders wrote:No, none of the votes were on her deal. It has been defeated three times. Paliament has also ruled out no deal.
There is talk of her putting it up a fourth time, with a confidence vote. Government resigning if it loses again.
So if a general election is called, how long can they stave off a hard Brexit in order to run that election?
A deal would be made with the EU. Possibly for a two year extension.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:11 pm
by dimejinky99
Green Habit wrote:Anders wrote:No, none of the votes were on her deal. It has been defeated three times. Paliament has also ruled out no deal.
There is talk of her putting it up a fourth time, with a confidence vote. Government resigning if it loses again.
So if a general election is called, how long can they stave off a hard Brexit in order to run that election?
EU will grant an extension for a reported two years.
Really can’t see the benefit of that now.
Whole new PM to bang over the head that the Working agreement negotiated is not being reopened
Unless Corbyn gets in in which case it’s all on the table from a UK POV
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:13 pm
by Green Habit
Thanks for all the answers as I try to learn more about this!
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:15 pm
by dimejinky99
Green Habit wrote:Thanks for all the answers as I try to learn more about this!
Good luck with that. It’s beyond a clusterfuck.
Best thing to do is look up ‘what happens now’ tomorrow on the trustee news sites
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:17 pm
by LetMeSleep
Check out the BBC Brexitcast podcast. It's cloying at times and a bit EU leaning but it gives the most concise views I've heard. At this rate of change though, they're out of date rather quickly.
I'd imagine the next one will be up in an hour or two.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:22 pm
by McParadigm
dimejinky99 wrote:EU will grant an extension for a reported two years.
Unless something significant comes out of Wednesday, I’m still skeptical.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:23 pm
by dimejinky99
Really??
That one is crazy deluded and anti Eu
Are we talking about the same one? Maybe not
GH brexit republic and Tony Connolly (on Twitter) are among the best out there.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:25 pm
by Green Habit
dimejinky99 wrote:GH brexit republic and Tony Connolly (on Twitter) are among the best out there.
Thank you!
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:29 pm
by LetMeSleep
Green Habit wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:GH brexit republic and Tony Connolly (on Twitter) are among the best out there.
Thank you!
Brexit cast is more about the parliamentary process than the impact. It's a surface pod.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:32 pm
by dimejinky99
LetMeSleep wrote:Green Habit wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:GH brexit republic and Tony Connolly (on Twitter) are among the best out there.
Thank you!
Brexit cast is more about the parliamentary process than the impact. It's a surface pod.
Ah right. The one I’m thinking of has Katya Adlar I think her name is? She’s pure unicorns and rainbows. Yet somehow one of BBCs main correspondents on brexit.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:37 pm
by dimejinky99
Green Habit wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:GH brexit republic and Tony Connolly (on Twitter) are among the best out there.
Thank you!
Great read on the border(not the backstop) Which is the ultimate fly in their soup.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:38 pm
by LetMeSleep
dimejinky99 wrote:LetMeSleep wrote:Green Habit wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:GH brexit republic and Tony Connolly (on Twitter) are among the best out there.
Thank you!
Brexit cast is more about the parliamentary process than the impact. It's a surface pod.
Ah right. The one I’m thinking of has Katya Adlar I think her name is? She’s pure unicorns and rainbows. Yet somehow one of BBCs main correspondents on brexit.
Yeah that's the one. As someone on the other side of the world this pod reports on SW1 quite well. It certainly doesn't delve into issues. Its a reporting pod.
And she is annoying.
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:41 pm
by LetMeSleep
Earlier, the People’s Vote campaigner, Bridget Phillipson, was making the point that a confirmatory vote was the best supported option . Her colleague, Chuka Umunna, goes yet further:
"The logical thing in this circumstance would be to put the prospect of leaving the EU with a customs union to the British people in a People’s Vote with the option to remain.
At the moment, there doesn’t seem to be support in the House for a general election because it won’t resolve any of the Brexit chaos, it just delays making a decision."
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 10:50 pm
by dimejinky99
Where to now?
Reading that makes crash out feel inevitable
Re: Brexit
Posted: Mon April 01, 2019 11:24 pm
by LetMeSleep
Re: Brexit
Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 12:11 am
by dimejinky99
Absolutely brilliant. Press play. Love Berkow
Re: Brexit
Posted: Tue April 02, 2019 1:09 am
by McParadigm
That’s awesome