Red Mosquito

numbers wrote:My opinion on Backspacer has definitely gotten worse and worse as time has gone on, but my opinion of LB as “ok, it’s better than Backspacer at least” hasn’t changed since the day it came out.

take it to the backspacer thread

this thread is about the near-fact at this point that PJ has converted to a christian rock band

be ready to receive His body

#blessed

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

evenslow wrote:what durden's saying is true. and not just of pj, of everything. look at the recent star war trilogy - it's happening now. a reappraisal and recontextualization is inevitable with whatever pj puts out next.

evenslow gets it

96583UP wrote:*****Spoiler Alert******

Official Album Tracklist Leaked

Spoiler: show

Praise Jam: Let Us Worship His Majesties

1) You Can’t De-Tithe Me
2) My Father’s, Son, and Holy Spirit
3) Hail, Hail to Thee
4) Aye Divine and Neat-a
5) We Three King Jeremy
6) Bettersonofman
7) Offering Plate He Goes
8) Don’t Go (Tell) On Me (To the FBI)
9) God’s Dice Always Roll Sevens
10) Crown of Thorns (feat. Joel Osteen)

I LOL’d so hard at this.

The Bounty of His Glory Tour 2020

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

Joel Osteen has a beautiful, haunting falsetto.

he will sing the Cornell part on Hungerstrike - re-purposed to describe feeding off of the powerless as the right of the church administrators

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

i know for me LB changed the way i looked at backspacer in retrospect. it didn't vastly change my opinion of it, but gave me a different insight into what i like and don't like about it.

McP has spoken of this well.

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

It's probably not scientifically empirical. My memory is that when Backspacer came out virtually everyone said it was terrible with no redeeming value, the end of Pearl Jam, etc. LB came out and now those same people say things like, "at least Backspacer is fun" "it has some great songs" "it's a nice late-career statement" blah blah blah.

How bad the general fanbase thinks Backspacer is has been adjusted by "the new bad thing;" Lightning Bolt.

also don't forget the general public at large really really liked at least two songs from backspacer.

rm is a weird sample size.

evenslow wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

i know for me LB changed the way i looked at backspacer in retrospect. it didn't vastly change my opinion of it, but gave me a different insight into what i like and don't like about it.

McP has spoken of this well.

This is a better way to put it. But yeah. Stip had a great post about how the final (meaning most recent) thing in an artist's career, especially in a long career, bares the burden of having to carry the weight of the entire legacy. So when that thing isn't as good as the thing before it, we react like in kind. We react like it's the end of the world.

As soon as Backspacer was no longer the last thing, it no longer needed to carry the weight of the legacy. As such opinions lightened. People looked at it with a fresh perspective. I'm not saying the album became suddenly GREAT to people. But we were able to focus more on the strengths and enjoy it as something other than the final word from a formally great band that means a lot to us.

evenslow wrote:also don't forget the general public at large really really liked at least two songs from backspacer.

rm is a weird sample size.

Very true.

I've said this before, but I know a guy in the music industry who is in his mid-20s and thinks S/T is easily PJ's best record.

Upon the second serving of shit, you often look back fondly on the first serving of shit. It doesn't change what was served either time.

love to eat shit.

I would think a second serving of shit would make me angrier at the first serving of shit.

But I also like LB a lot and think JJ Abrams is a great filmmaker. So...

durdencommatyler wrote:

evenslow wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

i know for me LB changed the way i looked at backspacer in retrospect. it didn't vastly change my opinion of it, but gave me a different insight into what i like and don't like about it.

McP has spoken of this well.

This is a better way to put it. But yeah. Stip had a great post about how the final (meaning most recent) thing in an artist's career, especially in a long career, bares the burden of having to carry the weight of the entire legacy. So when that thing isn't as good as the thing before it, we react like in kind. We react like it's the end of the world.

As soon as Backspacer was no longer the last thing, it no longer needed to carry the weight of the legacy. As such opinions lightened. People looked at it with a fresh perspective. I'm not saying the album became suddenly GREAT to people. But we were able to focus more on the strengths and enjoy it as something other than the final word from a formally great band that means a lot to us.

No. When LB came out and was better than Backspacer, it exposed that turd even more

i like to eat dog shit

LB sucked and made backspacer suck more bc it showed me that PJ has nothing left

*except for behemoth tracks like Of The Earth which for some reason they shelved in favor of twinkle twinkle ballerina songs

durdencommatyler wrote:I would think a second serving of shit would make me angrier at the first serving of shit.