Red Mosquito

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

evenslow wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

i know for me LB changed the way i looked at backspacer in retrospect. it didn't vastly change my opinion of it, but gave me a different insight into what i like and don't like about it.

McP has spoken of this well.

This is a better way to put it. But yeah. Stip had a great post about how the final (meaning most recent) thing in an artist's career, especially in a long career, bares the burden of having to carry the weight of the entire legacy. So when that thing isn't as good as the thing before it, we react like in kind. We react like it's the end of the world.

As soon as Backspacer was no longer the last thing, it no longer needed to carry the weight of the legacy. As such opinions lightened. People looked at it with a fresh perspective. I'm not saying the album became suddenly GREAT to people. But we were able to focus more on the strengths and enjoy it as something other than the final word from a formally great band that means a lot to us.

No. When LB came out and was better than Backspacer, it exposed that turd even more

96583UP wrote:i like to eat dog shit

E.H. Ruddock wrote:Yeah but when I'm walking a big dog and a small dog, I'd rather pick up the smaller turd

evenslow wrote:love to eat shit.

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

It's probably not scientifically empirical. My memory is that when Backspacer came out virtually everyone said it was terrible with no redeeming value, the end of Pearl Jam, etc. LB came out and now those same people say things like, "at least Backspacer is fun" "it has some great songs" "it's a nice late-career statement" blah blah blah.

How bad the general fanbase thinks Backspacer is has been adjusted by "the new bad thing;" Lightning Bolt.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

evenslow wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:

theplatypus wrote:

durdencommatyler wrote:Very much looking forward to people talking about how good LB is in light of the new terrible thing.

Do you really think that's what's happening with Backspacer? Because I'd like to call your attention to the album ranking thread. Ever since Lightning Bolt's release, Backspacer has remained largely in the bottom two spots

I don't recall ever saying anyone except maybe Stip thinks the album is better than the bottom 2 spots.

I'm saying opinions seem to have remained pretty consistent. Who is talking about "how good Backspacer is in light of the new terrible thing"?

i know for me LB changed the way i looked at backspacer in retrospect. it didn't vastly change my opinion of it, but gave me a different insight into what i like and don't like about it.

McP has spoken of this well.

This is a better way to put it. But yeah. Stip had a great post about how the final (meaning most recent) thing in an artist's career, especially in a long career, bares the burden of having to carry the weight of the entire legacy. So when that thing isn't as good as the thing before it, we react like in kind. We react like it's the end of the world.

As soon as Backspacer was no longer the last thing, it no longer needed to carry the weight of the legacy. As such opinions lightened. People looked at it with a fresh perspective. I'm not saying the album became suddenly GREAT to people. But we were able to focus more on the strengths and enjoy it as something other than the final word from a formally great band that means a lot to us.

No. When LB came out and was better than Backspacer, it exposed that turd even more

Self wrote:LB being better than Backspacer should give us hope. I'm hopeful. But I can't deny me...if only I could. We'll always have those 11 years.

96583UP wrote: this thread is about the near-fact at this point that PJ has converted to a christian rock band

be ready to receive His body

LetMeSleep wrote:BS was a much more successful album in terms of focus. Sure you may not like the songs but the whole had a focus.

LB is a scatter shot of shite.

Give me ten focused projects over a fight to get it back again PJ carbon copy shitfest like LB.

theplatypus wrote:I'd just like good songs please

theplatypus wrote:Don't talk down to me because I am a POC