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Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:44 pm
by digster
The vast majority of PJ fans don't give a crap about anything written after 1994, if that.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:45 pm
by harmless
theplatypus wrote:
harmless wrote:
Buby wrote:
broken iris wrote:So
puzzles and games : light years :: cold concession : pendulum ?

Sure sounds like it, no?
Are we sure Cold Concession became Pendulum? This could be big news, team.
Guys, pay attention. It was lecherouslittlestump who posted that.
You're right. I even acknowledged it then forgot.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:45 pm
by Monkey_Driven
digster wrote:The vast majority of PJ fans don't give a crap about anything written after 1994, if that.
Unfortunately this is true.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:46 pm
by IlluminEddie
Strat wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote: So, in other words, you concede that PJ's own fanbase don't like Matt Cameron songs. Yeh, this pretty much echos my thoughts too. His songs suck.

No, my point is I dont care what "Pearl Jam fans" think of what good song writing is or how they feel about MC's songs. They are idiots.

I hate to point out the obvious, your a PJ fan.

But, once again, PJ fans would vote against your love of evacuation and Matt's songwriting. You probably think Heyfoxymophandlemamma had a lot of potential as a single too, right?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:46 pm
by Strat
IlluminEddie wrote:
Strat wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote: So, in other words, you concede that PJ's own fanbase don't like Matt Cameron songs. Yeh, this pretty much echos my thoughts too. His songs suck.

No, my point is I dont care what "Pearl Jam fans" think of what good song writing is or how they feel about MC's songs. They are idiots.

I hate to point out the obvious, your a PJ fan.

But, once again, PJ fans would vote against your love of evacuation and Matt's songwriting. You probably think Heyfoxymophandlemamma had a lot of potential as a single too, right?

No, not at all.

and, lol, wut?

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:47 pm
by harmless
You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:48 pm
by Monkey_Driven
harmless wrote:You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.
Maybe it was Matt's idea to sign the distribution deal with Target.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:49 pm
by warehouse
so this whole idea that if you like matt's song writing you are a hipster is incredibly dumb and offensive. just give it up.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:49 pm
by harmless
Monkey_Driven wrote:
harmless wrote:You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.
Maybe it was Matt's idea to sign the distribution deal with Target.
Didn't you know? Matt fired Dave A for his love of fame and money.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:50 pm
by stip
southp wrote:Been offline since yesterday afternoon... I caught some of the fan reviews, but were there any comments from BoB that are floating around?
there were some. they are quoted a few pages back

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:50 pm
by stip
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Strat wrote:Im listening to Binaural right now. It is excellent. Of The Girl is top shelf.

RIP PJ :peace:
This one will bring them back to life :D
even when it is schtick, I always get a little sad when I see strat post that.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:50 pm
by harmless
I don't mind being called a hipster, but at least call me that for good reason, like my poems.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:50 pm
by Iowaska_Experience
Monkey_Driven wrote:
digster wrote:The vast majority of PJ fans don't give a crap about anything written after 1994, if that.
Unfortunately this is true.
IDK if I'd go that far, but I think it all boils down to this: I liked PJ the best when it had the Eddie that wrote 'Dead Man' and not the one that wrote JB/TE/SBM/FD, etc.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:51 pm
by sward
Mike wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Mike wrote:Matt's songwriting gets the band out of their comfort zone in the best way possible. Evacuation, In The Moonlight and Cropduster are just wonderful pieces of music. Eddie always comes up with really interesting vocal melodies in Matts songs.
I get that you disagree and enjoy these song (to each his own), but saying the heavy majority of PJ fans like these songs is hysterical. These songs suck (my take). .
I would never ever argue that the heavy majority of PJ likes these songs. I'm just speaking from my point of view and I couldn't care less about the majority of Pearl Jam fans. Most of them probably don't think Evacuation and Cropduster are wonderful, I agree. I still think they are.
Here's what the advantage of time brings. Sometimes, because earlier listens didn't bring instant excitement or very little growth based on a few subsequent listens, I'll put a song aside and forget to go back to them. Thank you Sir Mike for mentioning In The Moonlight. Based on your above quote, I put on all three in a row and have found that after initially having little taste for In The Moonlight, I quite enjoyed it. (Side note: Always loved Cropduster. Evacuation is a depends on my mood sort of song.)

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:51 pm
by IlluminEddie
harmless wrote:You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.
That's a separate argument.

We were discussing his songwriting. I believe it was you who claimed he was the best in the band. I said he's the worst. PJ fans as whole would most likely agree with me.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:51 pm
by warehouse
harmless wrote:I don't mind being called a hipster, but at least call me that for good reason, like my poems.
ive assaulted people for less

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:51 pm
by EJ
IlluminEddie wrote:
Strat wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote: So, in other words, you concede that PJ's own fanbase don't like Matt Cameron songs. Yeh, this pretty much echos my thoughts too. His songs suck.

No, my point is I dont care what "Pearl Jam fans" think of what good song writing is or how they feel about MC's songs. They are idiots.

I hate to point out the obvious, your a PJ fan.

But, once again, PJ fans would vote against your love of evacuation and Matt's songwriting. You probably think Heyfoxymophandlemamma had a lot of potential as a single too, right?
This has to be a second account.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:52 pm
by stip
Mike wrote:Matt's songwriting gets the band out of their comfort zone in the best way possible. Evacuation, In The Moonlight and Cropduster are just wonderful pieces of music. Eddie always comes up with really interesting vocal melodies in Matts songs.
i wasn't a big fan of matt's writing until backspacer, but I think he writes interesting songs that just don't often play to what I see as the band's strengths.

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:52 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
stip wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Strat wrote:Im listening to Binaural right now. It is excellent. Of The Girl is top shelf.

RIP PJ :peace:
This one will bring them back to life :D
even when it is schtick, I always get a little sad when I see strat post that.
me too, but im trying get past it :lol:

Re: Lightning Bolt - October 15

Posted: Wed September 04, 2013 4:56 pm
by HardTI
Maybe this was posted further back but one of the reviews said "The London soundcheck is Infallible". Good to know!