Red Mosquito

Don't worry there's plenty of other folks here who think you're constantly wrong.

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Take that Mickey

Wasn't it Marxism that inspired the revolutions that paved the way for Capitalism?

elliseamos wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Take that Mickey

Wasn't it Marxism that inspired the revolutions that paved the way for Capitalism?

mArXiSm (my phone does this and I don't know how to make it stop) would have to be dated to Marx, and while there's a really robust debate about when capitalism actually started and why, most folks place it to the 18th century or early 19th at the latest.

There are those who would argue that Marxism is simply the critique of capitalism; something I would assume that people in a capitalist country would want to study so that capitalism doesn't become a religion.

Mickey wrote:

elliseamos wrote:

E.H. Ruddock wrote:

Bi_3 wrote:

Take that Mickey

Wasn't it Marxism that inspired the revolutions that paved the way for Capitalism?

mArXiSm (my phone does this and I don't know how to make it stop) would have to be dated to Marx, and while there's a really robust debate about when capitalism actually started and why, most folks place it to the 18th century or early 19th at the latest.

sorry, I figured it was implied that I meant modern capitalism and Regulation Theory.

Rob wrote:There are those who would argue that Marxism is simply the critique of capitalism; something I would assume that people in a capitalist country would want to study so that capitalism doesn't become a religion.

Marxism:Marxists::Islam:Islamists

Rob wrote:There are those who would argue that Marxism is simply the critique of capitalism; something I would assume that people in a capitalist country would want to study so that capitalism doesn't become a religion.

I would say Marxism is one of many critiques of capitalism, not all of which are Marxist, but I'm wary of this "study Marxism in order to do capitalism more ethically" take (which the Warren campaign really exemplified). This isn't to dismiss the idea of a limited capitalist system as a potential path forward, but I'm not sure you're going to get that from Marxism--a broad and sometimes heterogeneous field of theory but one in which a pretty core tenant is that there's no reforming capitalism.

Mickey wrote:

Rob wrote:There are those who would argue that Marxism is simply the critique of capitalism; something I would assume that people in a capitalist country would want to study so that capitalism doesn't become a religion.

I would say Marxism is one of many critiques of capitalism, not all of which are Marxist, but I'm wary of this "study Marxism in order to do capitalism more ethically" take (which the Warren campaign really exemplified). This isn't to dismiss the idea of a limited capitalist system as a potential path forward, but I'm not sure you're going to get that from Marxism--a broad and sometimes heterogeneous field of theory but one in which a pretty core tenant is that there's no reforming capitalism.

That’s a good take. I just meant there are celebrants & critics of capitalism. It’s worth listening to/trying to understand both sides. Seems like other countries do better at this, while capitalism is America’s real religion.

omg lol