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HardTI wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

harmless wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

harmless wrote:You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.

That's a separate argument.

We were discussing his songwriting. I believe it was you who claimed he was the best in the band. I said he's the worst. PJ fans as whole would most likely agree with me.

But clearly the 'majority' opinion isn't always right, by your own admission, so it's not evidence for anything. It's a separate argument that doesn't suit you because you can't squirm out of the contradiction.

Of course majority opinion isn't always right. But, in terms of tastes, the are often right.... particularly if they are "exposed" to all alternatives. In this case, that's why I used PJ fans as the total population.

What I'm providing evidence of is:

Matt's songs are not well liked by the over-all PJ fan base. I'm quite sure if you polled PJ fans, even one's that could name every song and every record, he would appear down the bottom of the list in terms of his "songwriting ability". That's what I'm saying. Meanwhile, you're saying he's better than the guys who wrote: Alive, Evenflow, Jeremy, Daughter, Rearviewmirror, Nothingman, Present Tense, In My Tree, Given to Fly and so on.

I find that stupid.

I doubt that, and jesus you're starting to get annoying.

guitar_davey wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:

harmless wrote:You think Matt's drumming has ruined PJ. That's a pretty massive divergence from 'most PJ fans'.

That's a separate argument.

We were discussing his songwriting. I believe it was you who claimed he was the best in the band. I said he's the worst. PJ fans as whole would most likely agree with me.

To be devil's advocate (and to probably wade in where I know I shouldn't be), most PJ fans don't really give a shit about this level of analysis of who wrote what.

Lounge Lizard wrote:So, um...
Dutch reviews?

HardTI wrote:Guys, that Town Hall thing that vedder316 found and posted is pretty cool. Has the band done a Q&A like this before?

Chris_H_2 wrote:

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

wilkins wrote:Midlake and Mudhoney to open some of the tour...Q & A sounds awesome, hopefully the don't pre-screen the Qs...where're the Amster-damn reviews!?

harmless wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:So, um...
Dutch reviews?

There aren't any yet. To be honest I wouldn't be writing PJ reviews if I was out on the town in the Netherlands either.

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

wilkins wrote:"Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself "

Lounge Lizard wrote:

harmless wrote:

Lounge Lizard wrote:So, um...
Dutch reviews?

There aren't any yet. To be honest I wouldn't be writing PJ reviews if I was out on the town in the Netherlands either.

Why not? I'd be jumping in my seat and itching to share my impressions with EVERYBODY in the wide world.

Heathen wrote:

wilkins wrote:"Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself "

finally, some good news

Chris_H_2 wrote:

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

stip wrote:

Chris_H_2 wrote:

IlluminEddie wrote:Yes, drummers learn music in a different way - via beats. They aren't note or melody inclined.

Wow, this is news to me. Because on the very first day of my 5-year-old's drum lessons, he learned whole notes, half notes, quarter notes, and eighth notes. And his teacher, who drummed for Buddy Guy for 20 years, knows a thing or two about drumming.

if his teacher was any good wouldn't he STILL be drumming for Buddy Guy?

He was a session drummer and got named director of the music school. He's making WAY more money now.

this all seems a little suspicious to me...

You're right. I made the whole thing up.

Strat wrote:: Listening party Amsterdam 09/04/2013
Postby wolkenlos » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:12 am

Mirella wrote on facebook that it will take a while til they are home and ready to write something about it, but that nobody of them liked Sleeping By Myself