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Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:48 pm
by Monkey_Driven
It is such a relief to have a layered and interesting villain in a blockbuster movie.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:48 pm
by B
Y'know, the spoiler thread is already 9 pages long. I'm gonna see this tonight, and I'm not even going to bother catching up on that thread.

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:48 pm
by dimejinky99
@SkitchP wrote:Also, the more I think about it, the more i really like Kylo Ren as a bad guy. Vader, despite being 2nd or 3rd in charge, kinda just did whatever the hell he wanted. I liked that Kylo had to follow orders, and the rivalry with General Hux. I like that he had equals that he couldnt just force choke. Kind of an Anti-Anakin in that you were watching the light side pulling at him.

Also, I loved the storm troopers turning around when Kylo was going nuts.

Yeah he's definitely more fleshed out and complex as a villain struggling with wanting to be bad but not being able to. His lightsaber tantrums were awesome :)


On that, Rey sorta owns him psychologically from the minute she sees into his head. She's got latent/natural force talent and he knows and it's terrifying him.
This explains her beating him in the forest for me.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:49 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Sitting in the theater right now.

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:50 pm
by Monkey_Driven
dimejinky99 wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:Also, the more I think about it, the more i really like Kylo Ren as a bad guy. Vader, despite being 2nd or 3rd in charge, kinda just did whatever the hell he wanted. I liked that Kylo had to follow orders, and the rivalry with General Hux. I like that he had equals that he couldnt just force choke. Kind of an Anti-Anakin in that you were watching the light side pulling at him.

Also, I loved the storm troopers turning around when Kylo was going nuts.

Yeah he's definitely more fleshed out and complex as a villain struggling with wanting to be bad but not being able to. His lightsaber tantrums were awesome :)


On that, Rey sorta owns him psychologically from the minute she sees into his head. She's got latent/natural force talent and he knows and it's terrifying him.
This explains her beating him in the forest for me.
That and he was hurt from Chewie's crossbow bolt.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:50 pm
by dimejinky99
B wrote:Y'know, the spoiler thread is already 9 pages long. I'm gonna see this tonight, and I'm not even going to bother catching up on that thread.

Lotta good stuff in there B. Especially if you don't plan on seeing it a second time.

So much more stuff noticed on the second viewing for me

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:51 pm
by ABNorman
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Sitting in the theater right now.
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Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:52 pm
by dimejinky99
And that.

Him hitting himself in an attempt to make himself angry somehow to one up his force powers speaks volumes also

Don't get tho how he's SO powerful in the first half of the movie then isn't in the second. But again I think Rey has unmanned him completely

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:53 pm
by dimejinky99
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Sitting in the theater right now.

Have a blast fella!!

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:53 pm
by Monkey_Driven
dimejinky99 wrote:And that.

Him hitting himself in an attempt to make himself angry somehow to one up his force powers speaks volumes also

Don't get tho how he's SO powerful in the first half of the movie then isn't in the second. But again I think Rey has unmanned him completely
Rey is already one of my favorite SW characters.

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:56 pm
by EJ
dimejinky99 wrote:gotta laugh at those complaining that it's a remake and too much like ANH/the OT.
Funny how so many people had the same impression. I don't think anyone's complaining about though either. It was a good movie.

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 2:59 pm
by dimejinky99
EJ wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:gotta laugh at those complaining that it's a remake and too much like ANH/the OT.
Funny how so many people had the same impression. I don't think anyone's complaining about though either. It was a good movie.

It's like when U2 came back with Vertigo. They needed their U2 hit formula back so edge belts out the Coca Cola riff & they get to the chorus in 30 seconds.
Same old formula but done just differently enough to make it good:)


Crap comparison but yknow

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:04 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
24 hours to go.

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:08 pm
by Chris_H_2
it take Kylo for a cutter

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:11 pm
by southp
dimejinky99 wrote:And that.

Him hitting himself in an attempt to make himself angry somehow to one up his force powers speaks volumes also

Don't get tho how he's SO powerful in the first half of the movie then isn't in the second. But again I think Rey has unmanned him completely
I wish Snoke has mentioned something about the "incomplete training" prior to the last scene. I supposed we could've assumed it based on the way he turned on Luke but a more obvious mention would have explained why Rey could go toe-to-toe with him.

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:13 pm
by Strat
8 hours. I'm giddy!

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:16 pm
by epilogue
Strat wrote:8 hours. I'm giddy!
:luv:

So excited for you, buddy!

Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:17 pm
by dimejinky99
There's a thing called collider Jedi council. Three lads sit around talking everything Star Wars. They're doing their review on YouTube later tonight with spoilers. Can't wait. They really know their shit and will probably be able to make pretty accurate guesses on all the questions we have/you will have after seeing it

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:18 pm
by dimejinky99
There's a thing called collider Jedi council. Three lads sit around talking everything Star Wars. They're doing their review on YouTube later tonight with spoilers. Can't wait. They really know their shit and will probably be able to make pretty accurate guesses on all the questions we have/you will have after seeing it

Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Fri December 18, 2015 3:18 pm
by Chris_H_2
My only other criticism is that we spent 5 1/2 movies watching and being reminded that an apprentice needs to be trained in the force before doing anything meaningful, while here Rey seems to have figured things out quite well for herself, and did so in little less than an hour. So either she is a special brand of Jedi, or Obi Wan and Yoda were full of shit.