HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

[Chris_H_2]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

[daft twat]

Will a battle for King’s Landing really have any intrigue when one side has two dragons? A few nighttime stealth missions would eliminate the Iron fleet and any camps. I’m not sure another full scale battle makes any sense.

Plus they don’t want to level kings landing.

I think the two sides will clash on the way to each other. Not at the city

I actually see Cersei using that as her defense. She’s proven before she’ll burn it all down.

I believe Cersei will be publicly beheaded while Sansa and Arya look on. Good chance the Hound swings the axe.

[Norah]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

[JuanHamm]

I thought his redemption was the best part of the episode.

I'm sure others will agree. But the was so far beyond redemption for me. There was no way he was coming back at all. For me, there was no redemption. He was a piece of shit and he didn't deserve to live as long as he did.

He’s done some bad stuff, but so has many others, like Dany and Jaime. He’s done a lot of good lately. You can’t really be redeemed without doing bad things. I’ll agree that someone like Kylo or Cersei is nearly impossible.

Team Joey on this one.

Bran even said: «Thank you Theon. You are a good man.» Then he dies while trying to protect Bran. Can’t get much more redeemed than that.

He died in the Winterfell Godswood, as he should. But it should be with his neck on a block and either Stannis or Jon swinging a sword.

I’ve seen that you don’t think Jaime should get off free either.

You're god damned right he shouldn't.

By that logic, most of the characters on the show deserve the same.

This show was built on the idea that actions have consequences and that mistakes will be punished, no matter who you are. They've completely abandoned that in the last few seasons and it's to the detriment of the show.

[dimejinky99]

Will a battle for King’s Landing really have any intrigue when one side has two dragons? A few nighttime stealth missions would eliminate the Iron fleet and any camps. I’m not sure another full scale battle makes any sense.

Plus they don’t want to level kings landing.

I think the two sides will clash on the way to each other. Not at the city

I actually see Cersei using that as her defense. She’s proven before she’ll burn it all down.

I believe Cersei will be publicly beheaded while Sansa and Arya look on. Good chance the Hound swings the axe.

I like that.

But Think she’ll go out as she lived. It’ll be sneaky and underhanded.

Possibly Arya sneaking in to finish her. Or Jaimie

[Anders]

I thought his redemption was the best part of the episode.

I'm sure others will agree. But the was so far beyond redemption for me. There was no way he was coming back at all. For me, there was no redemption. He was a piece of shit and he didn't deserve to live as long as he did.

He’s done some bad stuff, but so has many others, like Dany and Jaime. He’s done a lot of good lately. You can’t really be redeemed without doing bad things. I’ll agree that someone like Kylo or Cersei is nearly impossible.

Team Joey on this one.

Bran even said: «Thank you Theon. You are a good man.» Then he dies while trying to protect Bran. Can’t get much more redeemed than that.

He died in the Winterfell Godswood, as he should. But it should be with his neck on a block and either Stannis or Jon swinging a sword.

I’ve seen that you don’t think Jaime should get off free either.

You're god damned right he shouldn't.

By that logic, most of the characters on the show deserve the same.

how do you figure?

Most have done worse than Jaime, including Daenarys and Arya.

[epilogue]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

Cool story, bro. I guess you got too pissed off at me to keep reading?

And I admit I'm being reductive and generalizing. There are plenty of people who didn't like the ep for super valid reasons that they're able to support really well.

But those voices tend not to demand to be heard, so the idiot/absurdly loud voices stand out.

[EJ]

Will a battle for King’s Landing really have any intrigue when one side has two dragons? A few nighttime stealth missions would eliminate the Iron fleet and any camps. I’m not sure another full scale battle makes any sense.

oh, i'm sure a few more anti-dragon crossbows have been fashioned for this battle

[epilogue]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY PETE??????????

[Mecca]

hell hath no fury like a chud scorned

we're more alike than you'll ever admit

You’re dying on Visenya’s hill; I’m dying on Rhaenys’

[Norah]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY PETE??????????

I love you too. We'll always have the correct opinion of Theon.

[Norah]

hell hath no fury like a chud scorned

we're more alike than you'll ever admit

You’re dying on Visenya’s hill; I’m dying on Rhaenys’

And we're both dying.

[epilogue]

I thought his redemption was the best part of the episode.

I'm sure others will agree. But the was so far beyond redemption for me. There was no way he was coming back at all. For me, there was no redemption. He was a piece of shit and he didn't deserve to live as long as he did.

He’s done some bad stuff, but so has many others, like Dany and Jaime. He’s done a lot of good lately. You can’t really be redeemed without doing bad things. I’ll agree that someone like Kylo or Cersei is nearly impossible.

Team Joey on this one.

Bran even said: «Thank you Theon. You are a good man.» Then he dies while trying to protect Bran. Can’t get much more redeemed than that.

He died in the Winterfell Godswood, as he should. But it should be with his neck on a block and either Stannis or Jon swinging a sword.

I’ve seen that you don’t think Jaime should get off free either.

You're god damned right he shouldn't.

By that logic, most of the characters on the show deserve the same.

how do you figure?

Most have done worse than Jaime, including Daenarys and Arya.

I supposed that depends on your own perspective. I'd say that's not even kind of true. But I'm also probably not using the same rubric you are.

[epilogue]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY PETE??????????

I love you too. We'll always have the correct opinion of Theon.

I know. But this one stung. I'm gonna need a minute.

[Mecca]

I thought his redemption was the best part of the episode.

I'm sure others will agree. But the was so far beyond redemption for me. There was no way he was coming back at all. For me, there was no redemption. He was a piece of shit and he didn't deserve to live as long as he did.

He’s done some bad stuff, but so has many others, like Dany and Jaime. He’s done a lot of good lately. You can’t really be redeemed without doing bad things. I’ll agree that someone like Kylo or Cersei is nearly impossible.

Team Joey on this one.

Bran even said: «Thank you Theon. You are a good man.» Then he dies while trying to protect Bran. Can’t get much more redeemed than that.

He died in the Winterfell Godswood, as he should. But it should be with his neck on a block and either Stannis or Jon swinging a sword.

I’ve seen that you don’t think Jaime should get off free either.

You're god damned right he shouldn't.

By that logic, most of the characters on the show deserve the same.

This show was built on the idea that actions have consequences and that mistakes will be punished, no matter who you are. They've completely abandoned that in the last few seasons and it's to the detriment of the show.

No, it’s really not

[Anders]

I thought his redemption was the best part of the episode.

I'm sure others will agree. But the was so far beyond redemption for me. There was no way he was coming back at all. For me, there was no redemption. He was a piece of shit and he didn't deserve to live as long as he did.

He’s done some bad stuff, but so has many others, like Dany and Jaime. He’s done a lot of good lately. You can’t really be redeemed without doing bad things. I’ll agree that someone like Kylo or Cersei is nearly impossible.

Team Joey on this one.

Bran even said: «Thank you Theon. You are a good man.» Then he dies while trying to protect Bran. Can’t get much more redeemed than that.

He died in the Winterfell Godswood, as he should. But it should be with his neck on a block and either Stannis or Jon swinging a sword.

I’ve seen that you don’t think Jaime should get off free either.

You're god damned right he shouldn't.

By that logic, most of the characters on the show deserve the same.

This show was built on the idea that actions have consequences and that mistakes will be punished, no matter who you are. They've completely abandoned that in the last few seasons and it's to the detriment of the show.

No, it’s really not

Agreed.

[Norah]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY PETE??????????

I love you too. We'll always have the correct opinion of Theon.

I know. But this one stung. I'm gonna need a minute.

Take all the time you need.

[epilogue]

I thought his redemption was the best part of the episode.

I'm sure others will agree. But the was so far beyond redemption for me. There was no way he was coming back at all. For me, there was no redemption. He was a piece of shit and he didn't deserve to live as long as he did.

He’s done some bad stuff, but so has many others, like Dany and Jaime. He’s done a lot of good lately. You can’t really be redeemed without doing bad things. I’ll agree that someone like Kylo or Cersei is nearly impossible.

Team Joey on this one.

Bran even said: «Thank you Theon. You are a good man.» Then he dies while trying to protect Bran. Can’t get much more redeemed than that.

He died in the Winterfell Godswood, as he should. But it should be with his neck on a block and either Stannis or Jon swinging a sword.

I’ve seen that you don’t think Jaime should get off free either.

You're god damned right he shouldn't.

By that logic, most of the characters on the show deserve the same.

This show was built on the idea that actions have consequences and that mistakes will be punished, no matter who you are. They've completely abandoned that in the last few seasons and it's to the detriment of the show.

No, it’s really not

Agreed.

Finally!

[epilogue]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY PETE??????????

I love you too. We'll always have the correct opinion of Theon.

I know. But this one stung. I'm gonna need a minute.

Take all the time you need.

Thank you.

But do you think Chris will ever forgive me?

[Norah]

That and the whole "this show used to play in the gray areas, nothing was black and white, nothing was cut and dried morality but then the white walkers showed up and it became your typical black hat/white hat good vs bad morality bullshit and I hate that so much.... THEN THEY KILLED OFF THE THING THAT I THOUGHT WAS SO POORLY HANDLED IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT I ALMOST QUIT WATCHING YEARS AGO WTF WTF WTF... so what is this show supposed to be now? just some moral ambiguity about a chair????? OUT"

The internet is my favorite place.

joe, people's gripes about the show today vs. what it used to be are somewhat legitimate. and they're certainly nothing new given the way season 7 was handled. you may mock them or discount them altogether because you really liked the way that your favorite character saved all of humanity by appearing out of nowhere straight out of mortal kombat and by stabbing the existential threat that seemingly no one could conquer in the leg with a dagger after he and his entire army of previously menacing white walkers stood there and did nothing, all in a matter of 10 seconds. but that doesn't mean people's opinions are wrong because you disagree with them.

I love you.

FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEALLY PETE??????????

I love you too. We'll always have the correct opinion of Theon.

I know. But this one stung. I'm gonna need a minute.

Take all the time you need.

Thank you.

But do you think Chris will ever forgive me?

That rich asshole? Who cares.