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Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 3:50 pm
by elliseamos
BigRedLedbetter wrote:With Lester, Gray, Shark and Kazmir that is a damn tough 1-2-3-4 come postseason especially if the A's have home field.

If Cespedes is in fact a FA at the end of 2015 (I saw conflicting reports too) the A's would have no shot at resigning him.
take it to the mlb thread... other than the slight mention of their newest lfer, this has nothing to do with the bo-sox.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 3:58 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
elliseamos wrote:
BigRedLedbetter wrote:With Lester, Gray, Shark and Kazmir that is a damn tough 1-2-3-4 come postseason especially if the A's have home field.

If Cespedes is in fact a FA at the end of 2015 (I saw conflicting reports too) the A's would have no shot at resigning him.
take it to the mlb thread... other than the slight mention of their newest lfer, this has nothing to do with the bo-sox.
Well Cespedes is a Red Sock and he will probably resign there. So there is that.....

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 4:12 pm
by Coach
If they sign Lester after trading him for outfield power....well, it's a dream, but it would be billed as quite the coup for Cherington.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 4:24 pm
by numbers
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:he's a free agent after 2015 a lot of these older International signings have clause in the contract that get rid of the arbitration years
not to mention he can't be stephen drew'd as he is ineligible for a qualifying offer.

therefore the sox need to sign him longer term.

which likely won't happen so, short of another trade (where they will get nothing near the value of Jon Lester), the sox get cespedes for a year.
Which is why I don't like the trade. If the whole reason you're trading Lester is because you're being cheap, why would you acquire someone on the verge of free agency?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 4:25 pm
by numbers
There is NO way they resign Lester. That's just something they've had their employees at the globe peddle to try and appease a disgusted fanbase.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 5:00 pm
by numbers
I LOVE the lackey trade.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 5:09 pm
by Norah
Coach wrote:If they sign Lester after trading him for outfield power....well, it's a dream, but it would be billed as quite the coup for Cherington.
If that happens, I'd call Cherington a GENIUS!

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 5:20 pm
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:I LOVE the lackey trade.
that's a good haul for such an elite pitcher.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 5:22 pm
by elliseamos
numbers wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:he's a free agent after 2015 a lot of these older International signings have clause in the contract that get rid of the arbitration years
not to mention he can't be stephen drew'd as he is ineligible for a qualifying offer.

therefore the sox need to sign him longer term.

which likely won't happen so, short of another trade (where they will get nothing near the value of Jon Lester), the sox get cespedes for a year.
Which is why I don't like the trade. If the whole reason you're trading Lester is because you're being cheap, why would you acquire someone on the verge of free agency?
you do it to be (1) in this same position again next year or (2) contending to win WS #4 (of course).

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 5:26 pm
by philpritchard
numbers wrote:I LOVE the lackey trade.
Kelly and Craig seems like a really solid return. I don't really get what they're doing, though.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 5:33 pm
by Norah
Yeah I'm a fan of the Lackey move.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 7:45 pm
by BigRedLedbetter
numbers wrote:I LOVE the lackey trade.
Craig is a nice get for you guys.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 7:56 pm
by elliseamos
well they got something for Drew! b/c that's better than nothing.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 8:25 pm
by philpritchard
elliseamos wrote:well they got something for Drew! b/c that's better than nothing.
But really, what's the difference between Kelly Johnson and nothing?

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 8:40 pm
by elliseamos
philpritchard wrote:
elliseamos wrote:well they got something for Drew! b/c that's better than nothing.
But really, what's the difference between Kelly Johnson and nothing?
kelly johnson doesn't block bogaerts from playing short!!

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 8:58 pm
by numbers
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I LOVE the lackey trade.
Kelly and Craig seems like a really solid return. I don't really get what they're doing, though.
I don't either, it actually makes sense if they plan on resigning Lester, but I would be shocked if they did that.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 9:00 pm
by Norah
numbers wrote:
philpritchard wrote:
numbers wrote:I LOVE the lackey trade.
Kelly and Craig seems like a really solid return. I don't really get what they're doing, though.
I don't either, it actually makes sense if they plan on resigning Lester, but I would be shocked if they did that.
James Shields will top our rotation next year and it'll be infuriating.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 9:02 pm
by numbers
Yea, I was thinking today they'll prob go give Scherzer 6/180 or something now.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 9:30 pm
by MattA75
I don't see Lester coming back, but if he does, Cherington is truly a genius for this move.

The Lackey trade would've made more sense if they had turned around and traded Victorino (as rumors swirled this afternoon), but for now, it seems like it's a cluster in the outfield. Maybe they can find someone to take Victorino in the offseason.

Happy that Drew is gone, he never should've been here to begin with.

Re: Boston Red Sox Thread

Posted: Thu July 31, 2014 9:36 pm
by Norah
Craig can play 1B and Napoli has a contract that can clear waivers...