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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 7:58 pm
by Fuzzcharger
Mine wrote:This.....this song has a weird effect on people :shock:
The song really is making people go full retard.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 7:59 pm
by McParadigm
harmless wrote:
EJ wrote:I love Riot Act. Arc should've been the first single.
Meh. Arc is just a tired reworking of Ave Maria.
Which itself is a lazy cover of Stairway to Heaven

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 7:59 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm so ino everything the IlluminEddie account it's sickening.
I'm gonna go ahead and shock WToB? into oblivion by admitting that we are two different wavelengths this time.
What exactly are you implying here?
I GAWT A SHAHPY MAHK ON MY HAHVEY MUG!!!

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 7:59 pm
by Mine
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Mine wrote:This.....this song has a weird effect on people :shock:
is the song even still being talked about? i dont really know whats going on in here anymore :lol:
I blame it on the song an Ed marring Kate Moss or whichever of the super models it is.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 7:59 pm
by Heathen
Thejambi wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
harmless wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Thejambi wrote: Now the logic is only quality songs can be radio hits.
No, the logic is: anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they are played less is an idiot.
Nobody's said that though.

He "implied it". Once again, go read the full thing in context this time.
Please show me.
I like Backspacer more than Riot Act.
I think the songs are higher quality on Riot Act ( technique, craft, depth)
I just happen to enjoy the upbeat and poppy nature of Backspacer in this case.

I can recognize quality even if I don't enjoy the end product that much. I recognize $5 pizzas are trash in comparison to a $15 Hungry Howies pizza but I usually prefer them for the cost/convenience.

Nowhere am I implying any of the nonsense you are saying I am.
It's simple, you said it wasn't a radio album. Which automatically means that the reason you think RA has better songs is because they don't play it on the radio! He is a genius.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:00 pm
by Norah
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm so ino everything the IlluminEddie account it's sickening.
I'm gonna go ahead and shock WToB? into oblivion by admitting that we are two different wavelengths this time.
What exactly are you implying here?
I GAWT A SHAHPY MAHK ON MY HAHVEY MUG!!!
Relax, sweethaht.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:00 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Mine wrote:
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:
Mine wrote:This.....this song has a weird effect on people :shock:
is the song even still being talked about? i dont really know whats going on in here anymore :lol:
I blame it on the song an Ed marring Kate Moss or whichever of the super models it is.
it sounds reasonable

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:00 pm
by gems and rhinestones
Fuzzcharger wrote:
Mine wrote:This.....this song has a weird effect on people :shock:
His life really is making IlluminEddie go full retard.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:01 pm
by Thejambi
Heathen wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
harmless wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Thejambi wrote: Now the logic is only quality songs can be radio hits.
No, the logic is: anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they are played less is an idiot.
Nobody's said that though.

He "implied it". Once again, go read the full thing in context this time.
Please show me.
I like Backspacer more than Riot Act.
I think the songs are higher quality on Riot Act ( technique, craft, depth)
I just happen to enjoy the upbeat and poppy nature of Backspacer in this case.

I can recognize quality even if I don't enjoy the end product that much. I recognize $5 pizzas are trash in comparison to a $15 Hungry Howies pizza but I usually prefer them for the cost/convenience.

Nowhere am I implying any of the nonsense you are saying I am.
It's simple, you said it wasn't a radio album. Which automatically means that the reason you think RA has better songs is because they don't play it on the radio! He is a genius.
Well fuck.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:01 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I'm so ino everything the IlluminEddie account it's sickening.
I'm gonna go ahead and shock WToB? into oblivion by admitting that we are two different wavelengths this time.
What exactly are you implying here?
I GAWT A SHAHPY MAHK ON MY HAHVEY MUG!!!
Relax, sweethaht.
Everywhere I go, it rains on me.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:01 pm
by harmless
Heathen wrote:
Thejambi wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
harmless wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Thejambi wrote: Now the logic is only quality songs can be radio hits.
No, the logic is: anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they are played less is an idiot.
Nobody's said that though.

He "implied it". Once again, go read the full thing in context this time.
Please show me.
I like Backspacer more than Riot Act.
I think the songs are higher quality on Riot Act ( technique, craft, depth)
I just happen to enjoy the upbeat and poppy nature of Backspacer in this case.

I can recognize quality even if I don't enjoy the end product that much. I recognize $5 pizzas are trash in comparison to a $15 Hungry Howies pizza but I usually prefer them for the cost/convenience.

Nowhere am I implying any of the nonsense you are saying I am.
It's simple, you said it wasn't a radio album. Which automatically means that the reason you think RA has better songs is because they don't play it on the radio! He is a genius.
*implies

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:02 pm
by IlluminEddie
Thejambi wrote:[Backspacer had the shit promoted out of it with 2 radio "hits". Much , much, much more so than Riot Act. Doesn't not mean it ranks higher than RA except for success. .
IlluminEddie wrote: So, you're saying Riot Act didn't have any hits? I agree. That could be one reason it sucks.
Thejambi wrote:I am not a Riot Act fan . It is not a radio album. I like Backspacer better but I'd have to say the quality of the songs on RA are better.
First, we were discussing sales as a proxy for ranking albums. He thought it wasn't a good one and I asked to suggest better. I said a survey would probably best. There was no response to that, but then (as one can see above) it was implied that the only reason Backspacer had better sales was because of “hits”. I responded that yeh - RA didn’t have any hits. Then somehow the quality factor was brought into play, he claimed the quality was better on RA.

So, yes, I still say there was an implication within the entire context that radio hits are NOT synonymous with high quality. At the very least this was implied with Backspacer. So, to find out, I asked the question using another example with Adele (rolling in the deep example), which was ignored.

That's pretty much where we are.

I say - anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they played less on the radio is an idiot. And further anyone who thinks an album is higher quality because it has no radio hits is an idiot too.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:02 pm
by bodysnatcher
glad to know i can now stop reading this thread until October 15th

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:03 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
Thejambi wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
harmless wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Thejambi wrote: Now the logic is only quality songs can be radio hits.
No, the logic is: anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they are played less is an idiot.
Nobody's said that though.

He "implied it". Once again, go read the full thing in context this time.
Please show me.
I like Backspacer more than Riot Act.
I think the songs are higher quality on Riot Act ( technique, craft, depth)
I just happen to enjoy the upbeat and poppy nature of Backspacer in this case.

I can recognize quality even if I don't enjoy the end product that much. I recognize $5 pizzas are trash in comparison to a $15 Hungry Howies pizza but I usually prefer them for the cost/convenience.

Nowhere am I implying any of the nonsense you are saying I am.
you made me want pizza though damn it

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:03 pm
by Fuzzcharger
gems and rhinestones wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
Mine wrote:This.....this song has a weird effect on people :shock:
His life really is making IlluminEddie go full retard.
What are you implying?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:03 pm
by Norah
I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:04 pm
by dimejinky99
Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:05 pm
by harmless
Guys, we just need to listen to whispered songs inside the wind, breathing in forgiveness.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:05 pm
by Fuzzcharger
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Put down the crack pipe.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:06 pm
by Heathen
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.