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Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 4:58 am
by PHATJ
That song is poop

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:11 am
by verb_to_trust
Yeah just so generic and forgettable. Do you think Corgan actually belives it's good?

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:13 am
by verb_to_trust
And yeah it's tons better than Can't Deny Me. At least the drums are interesting and the guitars are loud.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:14 am
by tragabigzanda

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:36 am
by chewm
I'm not sure if this is better than Can't Deny Me. Both are very bad.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:41 am
by Birds in Hell
chewm wrote:I'm not sure if this is better than Can't Deny Me. Both are very bad.
Agreed, I can’t draw a distinction.

It’s kind of sad. On some level, the bands must know (or at least suspect) they're not creating work at the same level anymore.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 12:21 pm
by VinylGuy
I agree with trag, billy’s voice is just too upfront. Thats a problem they had in monuments too.
But i love the music. Jimmy is such a beast.
Im really exited for the next 7 songs...and yes some dream pop please.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 12:29 pm
by bada
One of life's great mysteries is how Billy Corgan forgot how to record an album that doesn't sound like complete shit. That's not even a nice sounding demo.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 12:37 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 2:18 pm
by verb_to_trust
It's probably a lot of work to record 50 guitar tracks and play all the instruments like he did in the past. Even the artwork looks like clip art on this one.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 2:18 pm
by VinylGuy
yeah, the song basically has no groove at all. There are no lows. No bass. Its weird.
But it does sound better than anything from Monuments, the worst SP sounding album ever i would say.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:33 pm
by verb_to_trust
Maybe Corgan put out a leftover song from one of the shit albums like monuments to try and prove that if people perceived it as written by the "real" pumpkins they would accept it and love it? I really hope this is what happened because the response is obviously that the song still sucks regardless.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 5:36 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 7:47 pm
by VinylGuy
verb_to_trust wrote:Maybe Corgan put out a leftover song from one of the shit albums like monuments to try and prove that if people perceived it as written by the "real" pumpkins they would accept it and love it? I really hope this is what happened because the response is obviously that the song still sucks regardless.
I think he had Solara for the next album Day for night, or something like that. Jimmy played drums there too i think, but he left the record unfinished.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 7:48 pm
by Jammer XCI
New song sucks.

Is still better than Can’t Deny Me.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Fri June 08, 2018 9:55 pm
by Birds in Hell
verb_to_trust wrote:Maybe Corgan put out a leftover song from one of the shit albums like monuments to try and prove that if people perceived it as written by the "real" pumpkins they would accept it and love it? I really hope this is what happened because the response is obviously that the song still sucks regardless.
This song is at least four years old (if I understand correctly), so that makes a horrifying kind of sense.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Sun June 10, 2018 11:13 pm
by Ello Sailor
The vocals sit far too high in the mix, but that's been a problem since Zeitgeist.

Song is average at best. Boo.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Tue June 12, 2018 3:13 pm
by VinylGuy
They played on Fallon last night, and yes it was really nice to see James with them again.

Solara sounded pretty cool.

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Tue June 12, 2018 3:15 pm
by VinylGuy
Oh and James solo in Zero

:luv:

Re: Crucify the Insincere: A Smashing Pumpkins Thread

Posted: Tue June 12, 2018 4:25 pm
by tragabigzanda