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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 2:54 pm
by wease
darth_vedder wrote:So, is it just me or did anyone else think the yellow lightsaber was cool?
Yes

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 2:55 pm
by blueviper
Finn was wasted this entire trilogy

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 2:55 pm
by wease
darth_vedder wrote:Anyone else think Ben and Anakin should have joined Luke and Leia at the end?
Jesus fuck no.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 2:56 pm
by Monkey_Driven
blueviper wrote:Finn was wasted this entire trilogy
Yeah.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 2:56 pm
by blueviper
wease wrote:
Anders wrote:I thought Lucas had a multi year outline for Star Wars when he wrote the first movie. Although, there were certainly things changed along the way.
He very much did not.
GL changed his tune so many times throughout the decades who knows what his original intent was.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 2:58 pm
by wease
blueviper wrote:
wease wrote:
Anders wrote:I thought Lucas had a multi year outline for Star Wars when he wrote the first movie. Although, there were certainly things changed along the way.
He very much did not.
GL changed his tune so many times throughout the decades who knows what his original intent was.
Those that read books that authors spent many hours researching to determine that he did not have multiple movies planned out at the onset. And the authors of those books.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:04 pm
by Anders
Lucas decided to start with the fourth episode "due to technical and storytelling reasons." He further explained, "Lucas had a massive, expensive epic on his hands, and divided the story into three separate films. He had also developed a backstory for his elaborate tale, which together totaled six chapters, and sought to make Episode IV first, due to technical and storytelling reasons. When the film by some miracle went into production, it was beset by problems of all kinds, and Lucas was sure it would be a failure—and was shocked when it became the biggest sensation of the year."

Lucas himself has corroborated this claim, stating, "The Star Wars series started out as a movie that ended up being so big that I took each act and cut it into its own movie [...] When I first did Star Wars, I did it as a big piece. It was like a big script. It was way too big to make into a movie. So I took the first third of it, which is basically the first act, and I turned that into what was the original Star Wars."

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:09 pm
by wease
Anders wrote:Lucas decided to start with the fourth episode "due to technical and storytelling reasons." He further explained, "Lucas had a massive, expensive epic on his hands, and divided the story into three separate films. He had also developed a backstory for his elaborate tale, which together totaled six chapters, and sought to make Episode IV first, due to technical and storytelling reasons. When the film by some miracle went into production, it was beset by problems of all kinds, and Lucas was sure it would be a failure—and was shocked when it became the biggest sensation of the year."

Lucas himself has corroborated this claim, stating, "The Star Wars series started out as a movie that ended up being so big that I took each act and cut it into its own movie [...] When I first did Star Wars, I did it as a big piece. It was like a big script. It was way too big to make into a movie. So I took the first third of it, which is basically the first act, and I turned that into what was the original Star Wars."
That’s a huge retcon. Read the books.

He also says the whole thing was planned out as the story of Anakin Skywalker. Nope. Not at all. Read the books.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:11 pm
by Anders
This is basically the general story I’ve heard since the 80s, that is why he chose to rename the first one episode 4.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:17 pm
by Strat
I am truly not convinced he had this thing planned out. No way he would have had siblings kids if he did. And to be able to keep the secret for that long about who Darth Vader really was....

If he truly didn’t believe it would be a success then why would he not have that MAJOR story implication be played out in a new hope? Or as a director ...not utilize that to help the actors In understanding the story and their roles.

I’m just not convinced

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:18 pm
by wease
That’s the general story we’ve all heard since the 80s. Doesn’t make it true.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:19 pm
by McParadigm
I still own a Star Wars encyclopedia that his company put out in the earliest of 80’s, which says (among other things) that Owen and Obi Wan are brothers and that Anakin left the service after the Clone Wars to serve on a spice freighter. The whole book is basically one big denial that they knew what story they were about to tell.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:20 pm
by wease
Strat wrote:I am truly not convinced he had this thing planned out. No way he would have had siblings kids if he did. And to be able to keep the secret for that long about who Darth Vader really was....

If he truly didn’t believe it would be a success then why would he not have that MAJOR story implication be played out in a new hope? Or as a director ...not utilize that to help the actors In understanding the story and their roles.

I’m just not convinced
You shouldn’t be. Because he didn’t. Vader wasn’t even the father until the second draft of ESB. Leigh Brackett’s first draft had him and Anakin still as separate people.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:21 pm
by wease
McParadigm wrote:I still own a Star Wars encyclopedia that his company put out in the earliest of 80’s, which says (among other things) that Owen and Obi Wan are brothers and that Anakin left the service after the Clone Wars to serve on a spice freighter. The whole book is basically one big denial that they knew what story they were about to tell.
Yep.

And there’s also that interview, Rolling Stone maybe?, where he says he wants to do 12 movies and not 9.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:31 pm
by Anders
Strat wrote:I am truly not convinced he had this thing planned out. No way he would have had siblings kids if he did. And to be able to keep the secret for that long about who Darth Vader really was....

If he truly didn’t believe it would be a success then why would he not have that MAJOR story implication be played out in a new hope? Or as a director ...not utilize that to help the actors In understanding the story and their roles.

I’m just not convinced
Darth Vader as Luke’s father was a decision made in front of Empire. Originally Luke’s father had been killed by Vader.

Same with Leia being a Skywalker.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 3:43 pm
by dimejinky99
Stop dick measuring you nerds

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 4:06 pm
by dimejinky99
Oooh

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 4:22 pm
by wease
Poor Chewie is standing there without a medal. I must correct this!

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 4:24 pm
by dimejinky99
Going again at 9. Can’t wait.

9 at 9

It all rhymes

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Sun December 22, 2019 4:38 pm
by VinylGuy
how many times already dime?