Red Mosquito

stip wrote:the OT is simple but resonant characters and themes and epic set pieces with a surrounding mythology that works because you dont question it or look too closely (nor does the trilogy)

the prequels confused plot with theme, answered questions that didnt need answering (and impoverished the universe in the process) forgot to include real characters (for the most part) but did expand the scope of the galaxy (largely a plus)

the new movies (tfa, r1, tlj) return to the strengths of the OT with new characters, themes, and set pieces, almost universally more sophisticated than the OT. what it cant do for older audiences (usually) is recapture the magic of discovery and creation of the basic vocabulary of your imagination. that already exists and cant be recreated. But it can and has been for younger audiences, which has saved star wars from being ‘the thing your dad likes’

stip wrote:that’s also why (to me) the luke critiques feel a bit misguided. they strike me as based more on the vision of luke/jedi that existed in our childhood imagination (carried forward)and was reified in the EU, rather than the character that actually exists in the three movies. thats not to say other interpretations of luke couldnt exist or be equally plausible, but the TLJ version is both consistent with the lore that exists and is the more interesting story. it gives the character somewhere to go, explores the idea and disconnect between our myths and reality, AND gives us the rejuvenated heroes ending we wanted him to have

bune wrote:

bune wrote:See, the problem with the prequels at this point is that Rogue One exists. The Death Star is in the prequels as being built by the insect guys but they're never brought up in R1. Unless I missed something? Maybe a crawl would have helped explain how they went from them to the Empire.

Or I could just read the wiki. I'm off!

White House petition[edit]

In 2012–13, a proposal on the White House's website urging the United States government to build a real Death Star as an economic stimulus and job creation measure gained more than 30,000 signatures, enough to qualify for an official response. The official (tongue-in-cheek) response was released in January 2013:[45] the cost of building a real Death Star has been estimated at $850 quadrillion by the Lehigh University, or about 13,000 times the amount of mineable resources on Earth, while the International Business Times cited a Centives economics blog calculation that, at current rates of steel production, the Death Star would not be ready for more than 833,000 years.[46] The White House response also stated "the Administration does not support blowing up planets," and questioned funding a weapon "with a fundamental flaw that can be exploited by a one-man starship" as reasons for denying the petition.[45][47][48]

Remember when the government could have fun?

EJ wrote:Luke really should have had Rey carrying that giant fish in a backpack while doing backflips as part of her training.

durdencommatyler wrote:

EJ wrote:Luke really should have had Rey carrying that giant fish in a backpack while doing backflips as part of her training.

VinylGuy wrote:yeah, i dont really get it.

Anders wrote:Sounds too easy an explanation and dismissal to me. Just look at all the reviews on imdb by a wide range of users, and the dropping rating.

EJ wrote:Probably second accounts. They really should utilize Stip's crack system of barring posters with less than 250 votes in the PJ tourney.

stip wrote:

EJ wrote:Probably second accounts. They really should utilize Stip's crack system of barring posters with less than 250 votes in the PJ tourney.

i should be in charge of the world’s cyber security

blueviper wrote:

Sgt. Crackpot wrote:Took my kids tonight. They loved it. They laughed at Snoke getting annihilated. They were in awe at the throne room scene. They thought Luke was a badass in his final act.

Second viewing for me, and I still really enjoyed it.

We'll probably go see it again after Christmas.

This reminds me, when I went to see it...during the throne room fight.

At the end of the fight, when the lightsaber goes through the guards head, and you see the hole...a young kid (7-8?) behind me and my brother chuckled. That's messed up.