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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 3:49 pm
by Bi_3
Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:I find it laughable that anyone could still think he's that cunning. Or aware.
I was about to say the same thing. No chance Donald Trump is that purposeful and thoughtful about what he is doing. He's a dog sniffing his own ass. No chance he wakes up and thinks "you know....i really ought to...."
Besides
none of this "Distraction" actually distracts anybody from anything. News is a 24 hour cycle and there is plenty of time to cover it all. Not one of these so called "distractions" have shifted attention away from the multitude of bullshit this white house is engaged in.
And yet, here we are, in world were millions of people don't live in your bubble and guess what? He's one Senate vote away from tax reform. NK just launched a missile capable of hit NYC. And what is the lead political story on CNN.com right now? "Trump retweets anti-Muslim videos".
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 3:52 pm
by dpupenya
I dont know what exactly Matt Lauer did/got accused of, but of all people who should make comment about it, I think Trump should be pretty far back in that line.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 3:59 pm
by Strat
Bi_3 wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:I find it laughable that anyone could still think he's that cunning. Or aware.
I was about to say the same thing. No chance Donald Trump is that purposeful and thoughtful about what he is doing. He's a dog sniffing his own ass. No chance he wakes up and thinks "you know....i really ought to...."
Besides
none of this "Distraction" actually distracts anybody from anything. News is a 24 hour cycle and there is plenty of time to cover it all. Not one of these so called "distractions" have shifted attention away from the multitude of bullshit this white house is engaged in.
And yet, here we are, in world were millions of people don't live in your bubble and guess what? He's one Senate vote away from tax reform. NK just launched a missile capable of hit NYC. And what is the lead political story on CNN.com right now? "Trump retweets anti-Muslim videos".
There are plenty of "lead" stories on cnn.com right now.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 4:07 pm
by dpupenya
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 4:23 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:I find it laughable that anyone could still think he's that cunning. Or aware.
I was about to say the same thing. No chance Donald Trump is that purposeful and thoughtful about what he is doing. He's a dog sniffing his own ass. No chance he wakes up and thinks "you know....i really ought to...."
Besides
none of this "Distraction" actually distracts anybody from anything. News is a 24 hour cycle and there is plenty of time to cover it all. Not one of these so called "distractions" have shifted attention away from the multitude of bullshit this white house is engaged in.
And yet, here we are, in world were millions of people don't live in your bubble and guess what? He's one Senate vote away from tax reform. NK just launched a missile capable of hit NYC. And what is the lead political story on CNN.com right now? "Trump retweets anti-Muslim videos".
There are plenty of "lead" stories on cnn.com right now.
A. This.
B. This is a case of "correlation equals causation" misassuming. It IS true that Trump gaffes often correlate to the arrival of big news, but every day now has big news. There isnt any time when he could tweet "eat the muslims" and we wouldn't have something to point to as a possible redirection cause. If you unfroze a person from the 90's today and they started working backwards, their first assumption would be that maybe he's trying to draw attention from celebrity sex abuse scandals. After all, he tweets every time one breaks, right?
C. Far from distracting from his amitions, some of his tweets have pulled them back into focus or even capsized his plans.
That we get distracted by his mania is absolutely correct. That he is calculatedly manipulating us with it is a fantasy, and an excuse to ignore the truth: we are stupidly fixating on the mental decay of an old man when we should be paying attention to the political decisions that result.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 4:36 pm
by McParadigm
We're All Dead: a McParadigm Thread.
McParadigm wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Can we recover?
Certainly not in the near term.
- Spoiler: show
- Just looking at one tiny component (the loss of state department tribal knowledge and skilled practitioners), recovery will take decades. We are potentially working towards producing fewer PhDs and permitting less stringently regulated programs, which promises a reduction of expertise development....and we are doing it at a time when other foreign powers are ramping up their own commitment to higher education. We have no sanctions office. We have stunningly few diplomats. We are rushing in judges with no thought to their qualifications, and encouraging nations to write trade deals around us. Basic concepts like information, human rights and environmental degredation are entrenched political partisan ideals, and are only becoming more so. How do you recover when a quarter of your population believes the very need to recover is a conspiracy?
Puerto Rico is destroyed. Nuclear containment as a strategy is basically over. Healthcare was problematic already, but the tank tread approach to it will bathe us in tragedies, rural clinic closings, and expanding class divides (the first states will begin running out of CHiP money within the month, btw). Net neutrality may be a lost cause. Accountability certainly is.
Longer term,
its likely to be a tumultuous century. Maybe catastrophic. Bad conditions for recovering, but good conditions for change.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 4:52 pm
by McParadigm
NY Daily News wrote:Donald Trump is a madman
After his latest spasm of deranged tweets, only those completely under his spell can deny what growing numbers of Americans have long suspected: The President of the United States is profoundly unstable. He is mad. He is, by any honest layman’s definition, mentally unwell and viciously lashing out.
Some might say we are just suffering through the umpteenth canny, calculated presidential eruption designed to distract the nation from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, or perhaps from unpopular legislation working its way through Congress.
Quite possible. But Occam’s razor, and the sheer strangeness of Trump’s behavior, leads us to conclude that we are witnessing signs of mania.
Early Wednesday morning, Donald Trump or whomever was manning his Twitter account retweeted, seemingly at random, three videos of supposed violence against Christians by Muslims.
At least one of those was long ago debunked. The words of the tweet spread to Trump’s 43.6 million followers referred to a violent young man pictured in a video as a “Muslim migrant.” The perpetrator appears to have been neither a Muslim nor a migrant.
Trump wasn’t done. Just before 7 a.m., he urged the nation to “boycott Fake News CNN” — the nation’s most powerful person targeting a media company that happens to be locked in a legal fight with his own Justice Department over a merger.
Then, upon learning of the firing of NBC’s Matt Lauer for workplace sexual harassment, came the real unraveling.
“When will the top executives at NBC & Comcast be fired for putting out so much Fake News. Check out Andy Lack’s past!” he tweeted, aiming unhinged ire at the network’s news boss.
This is a day after North Korea fired what was, by all accounts, an ICBM. During a week when Congress is in the throes of delicate negotiations on taxes and the budget.
And before our eyes, the President is spinning in a Tasmanian devil’s rage about American news networks.
There was more.
“When will the Fake News practitioners at NBC be terminating the contract of Phil Griffin?” Trump then tweeted — demanding the firing of a private citizen who happens to run MSNBC, a news channel he hates.
“And will they terminate low ratings Joe Scarborough based on the ‘unsolved mystery’ that took place in Florida years ago? Investigate!”
Stop. Read it again. Google it if you must.
The President of the United States just casually accused a congressman-turned-TV-host of murder because an intern died in his Florida office in 2001.
It is a terrible shame that we have to address the substance of this base smear, but these are the indignities forced upon all of us in the age of Donald Trump.
Lori Klausutis, 28, was found dead behind a desk. An autopsy was conducted: She had been feeling unwell; she had heart problems that caused her to fall and hit her head. That is what the medical examiner concluded, finding no signs of foul play.
There is no evidence connecting Scarborough, who barely knew Klausutis, to her death. None. Zero. Zip.
Just like there is no credible evidence connecting Donald Trump to the alleged rape of a 13-year-old girl in 1996, a crime of which he was accused in a since-dropped civil lawsuit that has never held up to scrutiny.
One might think a man falsely accused of such a serious crime, who pledged to “open up” libel laws to make it easier for public figures like him and Scarborough to sue people who spread lies about them, would think twice before hurling such an incendiary false charge at someone else.
To think that is to assume that Donald Trump is well. He is not well.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 5:05 pm
by Bi_3
Strat wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Strat wrote:McParadigm wrote:I find it laughable that anyone could still think he's that cunning. Or aware.
I was about to say the same thing. No chance Donald Trump is that purposeful and thoughtful about what he is doing. He's a dog sniffing his own ass. No chance he wakes up and thinks "you know....i really ought to...."
Besides
none of this "Distraction" actually distracts anybody from anything. News is a 24 hour cycle and there is plenty of time to cover it all. Not one of these so called "distractions" have shifted attention away from the multitude of bullshit this white house is engaged in.
And yet, here we are, in world were millions of people don't live in your bubble and guess what? He's one Senate vote away from tax reform. NK just launched a missile capable of hit NYC. And what is the lead political story on CNN.com right now? "Trump retweets anti-Muslim videos".
There are plenty of "lead" stories on cnn.com right now.
Should have screenshotted that to have it make more sense.
Some imbeciles that might shed light on incidents on this and how it works:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pol ... ing-story/
https://www.today.com/video/are-preside ... 3734851990
http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/ ... challenges
It's not cunning. It's no different than a rat learning to press a bar for food.
Edit: Just to be clear, it's not people like you who put for the effort to understand his bullshit that he's trying to distract.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 5:35 pm
by McParadigm
Pretty amazing step for the NYT editorial board to take.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 5:45 pm
by bune
McParadigm wrote:Donald, when Alex Jones' right hand is saying this....
Hell, even Piers is against him now.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 5:47 pm
by Strat
bune wrote:McParadigm wrote:Donald, when Alex Jones' right hand is saying this....
Hell, even Piers is against him now.
Yea but why are they surprised? why are they asking him why? Everyone else seemed to know who donald trump was.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 5:52 pm
by jwfocker
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 5:56 pm
by Strat
That's exactly right.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 6:57 pm
by 4/5
McParadigm wrote:We're All Dead: a McParadigm Thread.
McParadigm wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Can we recover?
Certainly not in the near term.
- Spoiler: show
- Just looking at one tiny component (the loss of state department tribal knowledge and skilled practitioners), recovery will take decades. We are potentially working towards producing fewer PhDs and permitting less stringently regulated programs, which promises a reduction of expertise development....and we are doing it at a time when other foreign powers are ramping up their own commitment to higher education. We have no sanctions office. We have stunningly few diplomats. We are rushing in judges with no thought to their qualifications, and encouraging nations to write trade deals around us. Basic concepts like information, human rights and environmental degredation are entrenched political partisan ideals, and are only becoming more so. How do you recover when a quarter of your population believes the very need to recover is a conspiracy?
Puerto Rico is destroyed. Nuclear containment as a strategy is basically over. Healthcare was problematic already, but the tank tread approach to it will bathe us in tragedies, rural clinic closings, and expanding class divides (the first states will begin running out of CHiP money within the month, btw). Net neutrality may be a lost cause. Accountability certainly is.
Longer term,
its likely to be a tumultuous century. Maybe catastrophic. Bad conditions for recovering, but good conditions for change.
This is fear mongering and this McKinsey sounds like a Luddite.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 7:36 pm
by Bi_3
4/5 wrote:McParadigm wrote:We're All Dead: a McParadigm Thread.
McParadigm wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Can we recover?
Certainly not in the near term.
- Spoiler: show
- Just looking at one tiny component (the loss of state department tribal knowledge and skilled practitioners), recovery will take decades. We are potentially working towards producing fewer PhDs and permitting less stringently regulated programs, which promises a reduction of expertise development....and we are doing it at a time when other foreign powers are ramping up their own commitment to higher education. We have no sanctions office. We have stunningly few diplomats. We are rushing in judges with no thought to their qualifications, and encouraging nations to write trade deals around us. Basic concepts like information, human rights and environmental degredation are entrenched political partisan ideals, and are only becoming more so. How do you recover when a quarter of your population believes the very need to recover is a conspiracy?
Puerto Rico is destroyed. Nuclear containment as a strategy is basically over. Healthcare was problematic already, but the tank tread approach to it will bathe us in tragedies, rural clinic closings, and expanding class divides (the first states will begin running out of CHiP money within the month, btw). Net neutrality may be a lost cause. Accountability certainly is.
Longer term,
its likely to be a tumultuous century. Maybe catastrophic. Bad conditions for recovering, but good conditions for change.
This is fear mongering and this McKinsey sounds like a Luddite.
Not sure if serious.
2030 might a bit too early, but it will be at least 1/3 by 2050. I am doubtful jobs of remotely the same quality will be created. It's gonna be tough be on already disadvantaged communities when the jobs they use to feed their families are done by machines... and have no doubt they will take that pain to voting booth and the street.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 8:12 pm
by McParadigm
Bi_3 wrote:4/5 wrote:McParadigm wrote:We're All Dead: a McParadigm Thread.
McParadigm wrote:The Argonaut wrote:Can we recover?
Certainly not in the near term.
- Spoiler: show
- Just looking at one tiny component (the loss of state department tribal knowledge and skilled practitioners), recovery will take decades. We are potentially working towards producing fewer PhDs and permitting less stringently regulated programs, which promises a reduction of expertise development....and we are doing it at a time when other foreign powers are ramping up their own commitment to higher education. We have no sanctions office. We have stunningly few diplomats. We are rushing in judges with no thought to their qualifications, and encouraging nations to write trade deals around us. Basic concepts like information, human rights and environmental degredation are entrenched political partisan ideals, and are only becoming more so. How do you recover when a quarter of your population believes the very need to recover is a conspiracy?
Puerto Rico is destroyed. Nuclear containment as a strategy is basically over. Healthcare was problematic already, but the tank tread approach to it will bathe us in tragedies, rural clinic closings, and expanding class divides (the first states will begin running out of CHiP money within the month, btw). Net neutrality may be a lost cause. Accountability certainly is.
Longer term,
its likely to be a tumultuous century. Maybe catastrophic. Bad conditions for recovering, but good conditions for change.
This is fear mongering and this McKinsey sounds like a Luddite.
Not sure if serious.
2030 might a bit too early, but it will be at least 1/3 by 2050. I am doubtful jobs of remotely the same quality will be created. It's gonna be tough be on already disadvantaged communities when the jobs they use to feed their families are done by machines... and have no doubt they will take that pain to voting booth and the street.
Precisely. The speed of change no longer fits within the scope of our adaptability.
Luddites are the perfect reference point, though. Our ancestors in 1800 lived a life pretty recognizable to their ancestors from 200 years earlier. They just happened to live in a watershed moment for technological impact. Someone invented a loom.
My grandparents grew up without refrigeration (I mean, rural SD so). My youngest might not remember a world where she couldn't have a conversation with a computer that also dims the lights and orders pizza for her. Just two generations stand between those realities. Historically, this is already a breakneck pace. That pace of change going forward, technological and otherwise, will blow even what we've seen out of the water. 2017 is either the first quake in what may become riotous societal panic, or it is a reckoning that puts us on our best behavior going forward.
Not hopeful.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 8:37 pm
by McParadigm
Master manipulator Donald Trump:
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 8:41 pm
by Norah
it's a series of tubes
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 8:43 pm
by BurtReynolds
Whatever shall we do without state department tribal knowledge.
Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Wed November 29, 2017 8:43 pm
by McParadigm
Donald Trump: [after rolling in mud] There, now.
[giggles, then hops out of the mud puddle]
Donald Trump: Isn't this a clever disguise?
Christopher Robin: What are you supposed to be?
Donald Trump: [looking himself over] I'm a little, black rain cloud, of course.
Christopher Robin: [giggles] Silly old bear.