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Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 1:36 pm
by lowlight79
Just typical media these days. Giving people hope that Florida and Texas could turn blue. Florida and texas were never turning blue. This race was always about the southwest and midwest. Arizona was Key which could lead to a Biden presidency if the midwest states go his way.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 1:53 pm
by VinylGuy
If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 1:58 pm
by JuanHamm
VinylGuy wrote:If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
No, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada would work
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 2:14 pm
by VinylGuy
JuanHamm wrote:VinylGuy wrote:If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
No, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada would work
yeah i just saw how Michigan seems to be his. Seems he will win after all.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 2:19 pm
by tree_
JuanHamm wrote:VinylGuy wrote:If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
No, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada would work
so far so good!
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 2:20 pm
by Strat
VinylGuy wrote:JuanHamm wrote:VinylGuy wrote:If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
No, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada would work
yeah i just saw how Michigan seems to be his. Seems he will win after all.
Still a bit to go...
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 2:28 pm
by VinylGuy
Trump may know it already thats why he is trying to get the Supreme Court to decide.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:06 pm
by dimejinky99
Actual trump campaign email.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:06 pm
by elliseamos
VinylGuy wrote:Trump may know it already thats why he is trying to get the Supreme Court to decide.
Right. "I'm ahead. Stop counting now... Amy?!!!"
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:08 pm
by elliseamos
dimejinky99 wrote:Actual trump campaign email.
interesting that there is no mention that you'll automatically be signed up for a recurring payment.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:22 pm
by Higgs
Higgs wrote:Higgs wrote:Higgs wrote:What concerns me most is that our local Sportsbet has Biden at $3.40 and Trump at $1.40. I put $50 on Biden.
This has gotten tighter. Trump now at $1.70 and Biden at $2.20. Let's see...
Looking much better for me this morning. Biden at $1.28, Trump at $3.75.
If Biden wins I'll need suggestions on how to spend my $175.
I think I might buy an original MAGA hat. With 45 on the side, 'natch.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:41 pm
by B
Good times!
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:47 pm
by doug rr
i'm not doing 4 more years of whiskey gifs...just saying...
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:50 pm
by Captain Termite
elliseamos wrote:VinylGuy wrote:Trump may know it already thats why he is trying to get the Supreme Court to decide.
Right. "I'm ahead. Stop counting now... Amy?!!!"
I believe now it's the opposite: if they stopped counting this moment, Biden wins.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:50 pm
by surfndestroy
If Trump does end up winning do you think you will need to change how you think of Trump supporters? I am not sure thinking of Latinos as racist is very accurate nor helps. I think the same goes for his other supporters. Do you feel there's a need to ignore a possible cultural divide to move forward successfully in 2024?
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:54 pm
by B
tree_ wrote:JuanHamm wrote:VinylGuy wrote:If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
No, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada would work
so far so good!
This is the closest FiveThirtyEight model I can find to the current circumstances. There are some where Biden loses Pennsylvania, but those include wins in Ohio or Florida. It IS possible for him to win without Pennsylvania, but no one found that to be particularly credible as of Monday.

Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:56 pm
by Captain Termite
surfndestroy wrote:If Trump does end up winning do you think you will need to change how you think of Trump supporters? I am not sure thinking of Latinos as racist is very accurate nor helps. I think the same goes for his other supporters. Do you feel there's a need to ignore a possible cultural divide to move forward successfully in 2024?
At this point, I don't think the answer should depend on who wins/loses the election.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by surfndestroy
Captain Termite wrote:surfndestroy wrote:If Trump does end up winning do you think you will need to change how you think of Trump supporters? I am not sure thinking of Latinos as racist is very accurate nor helps. I think the same goes for his other supporters. Do you feel there's a need to ignore a possible cultural divide to move forward successfully in 2024?
At this point, I don't think the answer should depend on who wins/loses the election.
Probably not but it is easier to start to tackle the cultural divide from a position of power, with messaging from President on down than from the sidelines.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 3:59 pm
by B
Captain Termite wrote:surfndestroy wrote:If Trump does end up winning do you think you will need to change how you think of Trump supporters? I am not sure thinking of Latinos as racist is very accurate nor helps. I think the same goes for his other supporters. Do you feel there's a need to ignore a possible cultural divide to move forward successfully in 2024?
At this point, I don't think the answer should depend on who wins/loses the election.
Just because Latinos from socialist countries prefer Trump doesn't turn his other followers into anti-racists.
Re: Election 2020
Posted: Wed November 04, 2020 4:03 pm
by spike
B wrote:tree_ wrote:JuanHamm wrote:VinylGuy wrote:If Biden loses Pennsylvania he is done right?
No, Michigan, Wisconsin and Nevada would work
so far so good!
This is the closest FiveThirtyEight model I can find to the current circumstances. There are some where Biden loses Pennsylvania, but those include wins in Ohio or Florida. It IS possible for him to win without Pennsylvania, but no one found that to be particularly credible as of Monday.

He can win by taking NV, WI, and MI.