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Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:20 pm
by CopperTom
Bammer wrote:
Bammer wrote:Is it possible to foe someone in just one specific thread?
Asking for a friend...
Bammer's greatest idea ever.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:28 pm
by Simple Torture
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've been seeing more than a few people speculating that we haven't seen the last of the Night King in some form.
This would undercut, in a big way, the losses incurred during that battle and really take away the hero moment that's been building for Arya slowly for many years, all in the service of cheap thrills and actually you know what I talked myself into them doing this.
Spoiler: show
Of course, we'll also definitely see him in the prequel series.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:30 pm
by epilogue
Simple Torture wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:I've been seeing more than a few people speculating that we haven't seen the last of the Night King in some form.
This would undercut, in a big way, the losses incurred during that battle and really take away the hero moment that's been building for Arya slowly for many years, all in the service of cheap thrills
:nice:

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:34 pm
by Anders
I’ll be a little surprised if the dragons are alive at the end.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:35 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:I’ll be a little surprised if the dragons are alive at the end.
Same.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:36 pm
by Chris_H_2
so revisiting my question from last week (or so) about what happened to the white walkers and where they were for the last 800 years, this abrupt conclusion to their story is disappointing in that we'll probably never have the answers to so many questions that we have.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:52 pm
by dimejinky99
There’s no way both these dragons are alive at the end of this.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:53 pm
by epilogue
Chris_H_2 wrote:so revisiting my question from last week (or so) about what happened to the white walkers and where they were for the last 800 years, this abrupt conclusion to their story is disappointing in that we'll probably never have the answers to so many questions that we have.
Yeah, I can totally see how that could be frustrating if you still have a lot of questions. But maybe whatever those questions are will still be answered. Sam's still around. The Citadel is still around. Bran's still around. It's hard to know how where to stand on this until the series is wrapped, I think.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:54 pm
by Bammer
dimejinky99 wrote:There’s no way both these dragons are alive at the end of this.
Dragonsgone

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:55 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
Chris_H_2 wrote:so revisiting my question from last week (or so) about what happened to the white walkers and where they were for the last 800 years, this abrupt conclusion to their story is disappointing in that we'll probably never have the answers to so many questions that we have.
so, were you hoping to get that info about where they've been in 4 episodes? So, one of the four episodes left would have been dedicated to that? If they were going to do that story, they would have done it in previous seasons. As far as the abrupt conclusion, they did their share of destruction along the way. Wildlings, the wall, the rest of the north. It isn't like they just showed up and lost their first battle. I do agree they could have explored where they have been all of this time, but not this season. Should have been done long before their final battle and defeat.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 5:56 pm
by E.H. Ruddock
dimejinky99 wrote:There’s no way both these dragons are alive at the end of this.
One will be, it will be Jon's. Bran will get into it's head and somehow speak dragon to it and tell it who Jon really is, and it will burn Dany when she tries to kill Jon.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:00 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:so revisiting my question from last week (or so) about what happened to the white walkers and where they were for the last 800 years, this abrupt conclusion to their story is disappointing in that we'll probably never have the answers to so many questions that we have.
so, were you hoping to get that info about where they've been in 4 episodes? So, one of the four episodes left would have been dedicated to that? If they were going to do that story, they would have done it in previous seasons. As far as the abrupt conclusion, they did their share of destruction along the way. Wildlings, the wall, the rest of the north. It isn't like they just showed up and lost their first battle. I do agree they could have explored where they have been all of this time, but not this season. Should have been done long before their final battle and defeat.
Good point.

I guess I'm in the minority on this but I'm not sure that I ever needed more information about them. To me this is kind of like LOST and how people got really invested in things that were never meant to be explained or expanded on and as a result they felt cheated or misled or disappointed along the way.

All I ever needed was a motivation. Bran gave us that the other week, so I'm good. But I can totally sympathize with those that were hoping for more.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:00 pm
by epilogue
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:There’s no way both these dragons are alive at the end of this.
One will be, it will be Jon's. Bran will get into it's head and somehow speak dragon to it and tell it who Jon really is, and it will burn Dany when she tries to kill Jon.
that's some dark shit

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:03 pm
by darth_vedder
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:There’s no way both these dragons are alive at the end of this.
One will be, it will be Jon's. Bran will get into it's head and somehow speak dragon to it and tell it who Jon really is, and it will burn Dany when she tries to kill Jon.
I was talking to my wife about something like this... Now that the long night is over and maybe after (if) Cerci is defeated, Danny makes a power play, Jon / the North don't bend the knee, Danny is pissed and goes after him with her dragons, but Rhaegal sides with Jon and another fight ensues.

Maybe it's sappy / predictable of me, but I really hope Jon makes it out alive at the end.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:05 pm
by epilogue
For something like that to happen though Jon has to perceive Dany as a real and true threat to everyone. That would be a pretty huge shift in her character. And maybe hard to pull off with the limited time remaining.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:06 pm
by darth_vedder
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:so revisiting my question from last week (or so) about what happened to the white walkers and where they were for the last 800 years, this abrupt conclusion to their story is disappointing in that we'll probably never have the answers to so many questions that we have.
so, were you hoping to get that info about where they've been in 4 episodes? So, one of the four episodes left would have been dedicated to that? If they were going to do that story, they would have done it in previous seasons. As far as the abrupt conclusion, they did their share of destruction along the way. Wildlings, the wall, the rest of the north. It isn't like they just showed up and lost their first battle. I do agree they could have explored where they have been all of this time, but not this season. Should have been done long before their final battle and defeat.
Good point.

I guess I'm in the minority on this but I'm not sure that I ever needed more information about them. To me this is kind of like LOST and how people got really invested in things that were never meant to be explained or expanded on and as a result they felt cheated or misled or disappointed along the way.

All I ever needed was a motivation. Bran gave us that the other week, so I'm good. But I can totally sympathize with those that were hoping for more.
Same, I don't need to know the history of the smoke monster, err Night King, but if they would have gone there in a previous season and gotten more into the first men, the children of the forrest and the NK, I'd be fine too but I didn't feel it was absolutely necessary.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:06 pm
by darth_vedder
double post

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:07 pm
by Anders
Maybe the Dornish army will show up. Shouldn’t be too happy with Cersei.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:08 pm
by epilogue
darth_vedder wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:so revisiting my question from last week (or so) about what happened to the white walkers and where they were for the last 800 years, this abrupt conclusion to their story is disappointing in that we'll probably never have the answers to so many questions that we have.
so, were you hoping to get that info about where they've been in 4 episodes? So, one of the four episodes left would have been dedicated to that? If they were going to do that story, they would have done it in previous seasons. As far as the abrupt conclusion, they did their share of destruction along the way. Wildlings, the wall, the rest of the north. It isn't like they just showed up and lost their first battle. I do agree they could have explored where they have been all of this time, but not this season. Should have been done long before their final battle and defeat.
Good point.

I guess I'm in the minority on this but I'm not sure that I ever needed more information about them. To me this is kind of like LOST and how people got really invested in things that were never meant to be explained or expanded on and as a result they felt cheated or misled or disappointed along the way.

All I ever needed was a motivation. Bran gave us that the other week, so I'm good. But I can totally sympathize with those that were hoping for more.
Same, I don't need to know the history of the smoke monster, err Night King, but if they would have gone there in a previous season and gotten more into the first men, the children of the forrest and the NK, I'd be fine too but I didn't feel it was absolutely necessary.
Exactly. Well said.

Re: HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 6:08 pm
by epilogue
Anders wrote:Maybe the Dornish army will show up. Shouldn’t be too happy with Cersei.
Man, I'd sure love them to do SOMETHING to redeem the way they've mishandled Dorn in this show.