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Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 1:52 am
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:They could have done so much better with Finn yeah. I remember i was exited about him being a storm trooper too. Besides TFA, his character is just awful. Boyega lifts him a lot with his acting, but its still...embarrassing.

Also, a lot of what JJ and Rian did thematically in all the trilogy is interesting. They really fucked up how to tell this story tough.
I'll never tell someone their opinion is wrong. But I can not relate to or understand this. His arc is fantastic and he's one of the strengths of this final chapter. I'm bummed that you don't see it. Because it's all right there as far as I can tell.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 1:56 am
by wease
durdencommatyler wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:They could have done so much better with Finn yeah. I remember i was exited about him being a storm trooper too. Besides TFA, his character is just awful. Boyega lifts him a lot with his acting, but its still...embarrassing.

Also, a lot of what JJ and Rian did thematically in all the trilogy is interesting. They really fucked up how to tell this story tough.
I'll never tell someone their opinion is wrong. But I can not relate to or understand this. His arc is fantastic and he's one of the strengths of this final chapter. I'm bummed that you don't see it. Because it's all right there as far as I can tell.
:shake:

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 1:56 am
by epilogue
*shrugs*

sorry it's lost on you buddy.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:04 am
by McParadigm
durdencommatyler wrote:*shrugs*

sorry it's lost on you buddy.
What a cool thing to say

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:06 am
by BurtReynolds
REEYYYYYY!

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:08 am
by epilogue
McParadigm wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:*shrugs*

sorry it's lost on you buddy.
What a cool thing to say
You know you don't actually HAVE to be an asshole

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:09 am
by BurtReynolds
yeah you could hide it behind a lot more passive aggressiveness.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:10 am
by epilogue
Yeah the :shake: isn't passive aggressive at all

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:11 am
by epilogue
And where were you champions of right and wrong when others did the same to me?

Yeah, that's what I thought.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:12 am
by BurtReynolds
durdencommatyler wrote: I'll never tell someone their opinion is wrong. But I can not relate to or understand this. His arc is fantastic and he's one of the strengths of this final chapter. I'm bummed that you don't see it. Because it's all right there as far as I can tell.
"you're stupid and your opinion is wrong" sounds a lot less assholish than whatever this is.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:12 am
by epilogue
BurtReynolds wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote: I'll never tell someone their opinion is wrong. But I can not relate to or understand this. His arc is fantastic and he's one of the strengths of this final chapter. I'm bummed that you don't see it. Because it's all right there as far as I can tell.
"you're stupid and your opinion is wrong" sounds a lot less assholish than whatever this is.
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

you got me burt

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:13 am
by VinylGuy
durdencommatyler wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:They could have done so much better with Finn yeah. I remember i was exited about him being a storm trooper too. Besides TFA, his character is just awful. Boyega lifts him a lot with his acting, but its still...embarrassing.

Also, a lot of what JJ and Rian did thematically in all the trilogy is interesting. They really fucked up how to tell this story tough.
I'll never tell someone their opinion is wrong. But I can not relate to or understand this. His arc is fantastic and he's one of the strengths of this final chapter. I'm bummed that you don't see it. Because it's all right there as far as I can tell.
Joe, my dear joe...im so happy that you seem to enjoy so much this new movie and the trilogy. I do too. But i also want to talk about the huge flaws this trilogy have. Huge ones really.
And its fine if you like it anyway...please, dont feel like im posting to argue. Please.

If you like Finn's arc thats ok. I know you love a lot of movies and music and art i consider garbage, so thats fine. I feel Finn's character had a lot of potential then turned into a joke.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:17 am
by epilogue
I wasn't trying to offend you or come off as superior. I was just expressing a different point of view. Obviously however I presented it is off-putting, and I'm sorry about that. Not my intention at all.

The movie is highly flawed. The trilogy is highly flawed. Please don't think that I think this is a perfect movie. But I do think Finn's arc is well articulated. The Force stuff doesn't totally work for me but the human stuff really resonates. That's all I was trying to say.

My apologies to McP and Burt and you. I wasn't trying to be a dick guys. Just talking about a dumb space fantasy series that I happen to like.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:18 am
by BurtReynolds
Not that I'm against being an asshole. I just like more blatant assholery.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:20 am
by epilogue
Well yeah. Your aversion to nuance and depth isn't lost on any of us.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:21 am
by McParadigm
We all get worked up about things we love. I get worked up about Star Trek. Burt gets worked up about total societal breakdown. Etc.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:22 am
by epilogue
I get worked up about bullies and idiots. So yeah I feel ya

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:23 am
by VinylGuy
I wasnt offended at all joe! dont worry. Like i said, if you liked his arc, fine! I thought we were getting a much more complex thing....but he was also fucked in TLJ so it wasnt a surprise.

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:24 am
by wease
durdencommatyler wrote:Yeah the :shake: isn't passive aggressive at all
Does that mean I was an asshole for posting it?

Re: Star Wars: Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker

Posted: Mon December 23, 2019 2:25 am
by McParadigm
durdencommatyler wrote:I get worked up about bullies and idiots. So yeah I feel ya
Lordy, durd