Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 4:22 pm
And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.
McParadigm wrote:I just want to keep seeing this on the current page.McParadigm wrote:![]()
It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
What crimes? Lying to the FBI?McParadigm wrote:It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:
Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus
Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.

You wanted to know...Simple Torture wrote:Or, something like: "We removed Mike Flynn from the White House for making false statements, so this is no surprise..."
Sessions?McParadigm wrote:It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:
Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus
Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
I'm skeptical that Mueller would essentially give Flynn and his son a pass in exchange for Sessions. Three of the four above are neck deep in the top decision-making of whatever conspiracy existed, so getting them gets the other Flynn-level collaborators (i.e. Sessions). Getting Sessions (assuming guilt) would put the investigation itself at risk, and not be guaranteed to offer more dirt on the big three.Joesanity wrote:Sessions?McParadigm wrote:It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:
Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus
Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
Jim Carey as Tony CliftonStrat wrote:Narrowing in, indeed.
Who's going to play trump in "Trump" someday?
Kevin Spacey as Steve MillerMcParadigm wrote:Jim Carey as Tony CliftonStrat wrote:Narrowing in, indeed.
Who's going to play trump in "Trump" someday?
Something that I always keep in mind is that it was more than two years between the Watergate break-in and Nixon's resignation. Pretty much all of us here want Trump gone, it can just take some time for something like this to develop.meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether
This was the context of Kushner's instruction to Flynn last December. One transition official at the time said Kushner called Flynn to tell him he needed to get every foreign minister or ambassador from a country on the U.N. Security Council to delay or vote against the resolution. Much of this appeared to be coordinated also with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose envoys shared their own intelligence about the Obama administration's lobbying efforts to get member stats to support the resolution with the Trump transition team.
(A spokesman for Kushner referred me to his lawyer, Abbe Lowell, for this column. Lowell did not return an email before deadline.)
ABC News reported Friday that Flynn is prepared to tell Mueller's team that Trump had instructed him to make contact with Russia during the campaign itself. If those contacts involved the emails the U.S. intelligence community charges Russia stole from leading Democrats, then Mueller will have uncovered evidence of actual collusion between the president and a foreign adversary during the election. Impeachment could then be in the cards.
I forgot Bannon....McParadigm wrote:I'm skeptical that Mueller would essentially give Flynn and his son a pass in exchange for Sessions. Three of the four above are neck deep in the top decision-making of whatever conspiracy existed, so getting them gets the other Flynn-level collaborators (i.e. Sessions). Getting Sessions (assuming guilt) would put the investigation itself at risk, and not be guaranteed to offer more dirt on the big three.Joesanity wrote:Sessions?McParadigm wrote:It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:
Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus
Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
Reince is mostly just included because his position in the campaign/transition did "outrank" Flynn's.
Simple Torture wrote:McParadigm wrote:MaybeBi_3 wrote:McParadigm wrote:Christ. I can't even walk to work without my phone out anymore.Bi_3 wrote:Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
Turns out that was RUMINT. sorry for the confusion...