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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 4:22 pm
by McParadigm
And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 4:37 pm
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 4:56 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
McParadigm wrote:Image
I just want to keep seeing this on the current page.


Is that it even illegal?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:01 pm
by McParadigm
meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.

It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:

Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus

Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:02 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.

It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:

Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus

Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
What crimes? Lying to the FBI?


Edit:

found this:

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Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:08 pm
by bune
Simple Torture wrote:Or, something like: "We removed Mike Flynn from the White House for making false statements, so this is no surprise..."
You wanted to know...

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:09 pm
by Joesanity
McParadigm wrote:
meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.

It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:

Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus

Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
Sessions?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:14 pm
by McParadigm
Joesanity wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.

It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:

Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus

Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
Sessions?
I'm skeptical that Mueller would essentially give Flynn and his son a pass in exchange for Sessions. Three of the four above are neck deep in the top decision-making of whatever conspiracy existed, so getting them gets the other Flynn-level collaborators (i.e. Sessions). Getting Sessions (assuming guilt) would put the investigation itself at risk, and not be guaranteed to offer more dirt on the big three.

Reince is mostly just included because his position in the campaign/transition did "outrank" Flynn's.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:16 pm
by McParadigm
Hey, look at that!

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:19 pm
by Strat
Narrowing in, indeed.

Who's going to play trump in "Trump" someday?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:24 pm
by McParadigm
Strat wrote:Narrowing in, indeed.

Who's going to play trump in "Trump" someday?
Jim Carey as Tony Clifton

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:31 pm
by Bi_3
McParadigm wrote:
Strat wrote:Narrowing in, indeed.

Who's going to play trump in "Trump" someday?
Jim Carey as Tony Clifton
Kevin Spacey as Steve Miller

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 5:32 pm
by The Argonaut
Wasn't there a "Donald Trump is actually Andy Kaufman" theory floating around for a little while?

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 6:22 pm
by Green Habit
meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
Something that I always keep in mind is that it was more than two years between the Watergate break-in and Nixon's resignation. Pretty much all of us here want Trump gone, it can just take some time for something like this to develop.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 6:31 pm
by McParadigm
Kushner Is Said to Have Ordered Flynn to Contact Russia

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/view/arti ... act-russia
Two former officials with the Trump transition team who worked closely with Flynn say that during the last days of the Obama administration, the retired general was instructed to contact foreign ambassadors and foreign ministers of countries on the U.N. Security Council, ahead of a vote condemning Israeli settlements. Flynn was told to try to get them to delay that vote until after Barack Obama had left office, or oppose the resolution altogether
This was the context of Kushner's instruction to Flynn last December. One transition official at the time said Kushner called Flynn to tell him he needed to get every foreign minister or ambassador from a country on the U.N. Security Council to delay or vote against the resolution. Much of this appeared to be coordinated also with Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu, whose envoys shared their own intelligence about the Obama administration's lobbying efforts to get member stats to support the resolution with the Trump transition team.

(A spokesman for Kushner referred me to his lawyer, Abbe Lowell, for this column. Lowell did not return an email before deadline.)
ABC News reported Friday that Flynn is prepared to tell Mueller's team that Trump had instructed him to make contact with Russia during the campaign itself. If those contacts involved the emails the U.S. intelligence community charges Russia stole from leading Democrats, then Mueller will have uncovered evidence of actual collusion between the president and a foreign adversary during the election. Impeachment could then be in the cards.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 6:40 pm
by McParadigm
McParadigm wrote:
Joesanity wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
meatwad wrote:Guys I don't wanna blow my load too early but...is this it?
It might be (I think it's the fracture that makes the collusive structure unsustainable), but we will only know for sure in retrospect, and probably not for some time.

It does mean that at least one of the following people have testimony on record about them regarding prosecutable crimes:

Donald Trump
Jared Kushner
Mike Pence
Reince Preibus

Nobody else really represents a "higher" target than Flynn, so nobody else would warrant such an incredibly downsized plea.
Sessions?
I'm skeptical that Mueller would essentially give Flynn and his son a pass in exchange for Sessions. Three of the four above are neck deep in the top decision-making of whatever conspiracy existed, so getting them gets the other Flynn-level collaborators (i.e. Sessions). Getting Sessions (assuming guilt) would put the investigation itself at risk, and not be guaranteed to offer more dirt on the big three.

Reince is mostly just included because his position in the campaign/transition did "outrank" Flynn's.
I forgot Bannon....
Spoiler: show
(which was wonderful)
...who was apparently at Mar-a-Lago that day.

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 7:42 pm
by Hatfield
Simple Torture wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Tillerson out, Pompeo to State? WTF is this shit show....
Christ. I can't even walk to work without my phone out anymore.

Turns out that was RUMINT. sorry for the confusion... :oops:
Maybe
:lol:

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 7:53 pm
by McParadigm
Now confirmed

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 7:55 pm
by Strat
I got dibs on ivanka

Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump

Posted: Fri December 01, 2017 8:03 pm
by dimejinky99
Him starting world war 3 aside

What are Trumps chances of still being in office and making it to the next campaign for president in 2020?