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Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 2:32 pm
by 4/5
Warriors will be fine. KD will be fine in plenty of time for the only two series they'd need him.

Trust me, I'm a doctor.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 2:56 pm
by verb_to_trust
They are making the news sound worse than it is so they can create a hero narrative in the playoffs that will hopefully get rid of the pussy/coward label he has rightfully been slapped with. It's brilliant really.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 2:57 pm
by verb_to_trust
This will also heal stephs wounded ego as long as he doesn't go 0-11 from three every night.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:10 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Bone bruise and sprained MCL. Thanks goodness. I understand why so many people hate on the Warriors, but why do the Cavs get a free pass signing all these waived former All-Stars who want to chase a ring (ie. Bogut and Williams)?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:10 pm
by 4/5
Warriors announce he could return during the regular season.

Nothing to see here.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:12 pm
by 4/5
Monkey_Driven wrote:Bone bruise and sprained MCL. Thanks goodness. I understand why so many people hate on the Warriors, but why do the Cavs get a free pass signing all these waived former All-Stars who want to chase a ring (ie. Bogut and Williams)?
I'm confused. I don't think anybody hates on the Warriors for signing KD, they hate on KD for signing with the Warriors. I don't see why anybody would ever criticize a team for making moves to improve itself, so I think the criticism would be at Bogut and Williams, not the Cavs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:16 pm
by verb_to_trust
Because Bogut and Williams are bad basketball players

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:18 pm
by verb_to_trust
4/5 wrote:Warriors announce he could return during the regular season.

Nothing to see here.
The only thing would be that it seems Durant gets injured a lot. Although this was more of a freak occurrence with zaza falling into him.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:19 pm
by 4/5
verb_to_trust wrote:Because Bogut and Williams are bad basketball players
With their backup PG play being weak/non-existent, does Williams help?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:26 pm
by Monkey_Driven
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Bone bruise and sprained MCL. Thanks goodness. I understand why so many people hate on the Warriors, but why do the Cavs get a free pass signing all these waived former All-Stars who want to chase a ring (ie. Bogut and Williams)?
I'm confused. I don't think anybody hates on the Warriors for signing KD, they hate on KD for signing with the Warriors. I don't see why anybody would ever criticize a team for making moves to improve itself, so I think the criticism would be at Bogut and Williams, not the Cavs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
I didn't state it clearly enough. A lot of people hate on the Warriors because KD plays for them. They cheer against him and the Warriors. I don't see why people cheer against the Cavs for several players chasing rings with them. Does that make sense?

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:32 pm
by 4/5
Monkey_Driven wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Bone bruise and sprained MCL. Thanks goodness. I understand why so many people hate on the Warriors, but why do the Cavs get a free pass signing all these waived former All-Stars who want to chase a ring (ie. Bogut and Williams)?
I'm confused. I don't think anybody hates on the Warriors for signing KD, they hate on KD for signing with the Warriors. I don't see why anybody would ever criticize a team for making moves to improve itself, so I think the criticism would be at Bogut and Williams, not the Cavs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
I didn't state it clearly enough. A lot of people hate on the Warriors because KD plays for them. They cheer against him and the Warriors. I don't see why people cheer against the Cavs for several players chasing rings with them. Does that make sense?
Sure. It's what verb said, then. Because KD is a top 3 player in the league and Bogut and Williams aren't.

Zaza and David West are the better comparison for ring-chasing. I think most people sort of expect vets on the back 9 to do this. Their contribution is usually so marginal that it doesn't really matter.

People spent 4 years hating LeBron for ring-chasing in Miami and more than a few people felt he was basically doing the same thing by returning to Cleveland. And there's been a fair amount of LeBron-mocking for wanting more playmakers and getting Korver, etc.

Plenty of hate to go around.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:41 pm
by Monkey_Driven
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:Bone bruise and sprained MCL. Thanks goodness. I understand why so many people hate on the Warriors, but why do the Cavs get a free pass signing all these waived former All-Stars who want to chase a ring (ie. Bogut and Williams)?
I'm confused. I don't think anybody hates on the Warriors for signing KD, they hate on KD for signing with the Warriors. I don't see why anybody would ever criticize a team for making moves to improve itself, so I think the criticism would be at Bogut and Williams, not the Cavs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding you.
I didn't state it clearly enough. A lot of people hate on the Warriors because KD plays for them. They cheer against him and the Warriors. I don't see why people cheer against the Cavs for several players chasing rings with them. Does that make sense?
Sure. It's what verb said, then. Because KD is a top 3 player in the league and Bogut and Williams aren't.

Zaza and David West are the better comparison for ring-chasing. I think most people sort of expect vets on the back 9 to do this. Their contribution is usually so marginal that it doesn't really matter.

People spent 4 years hating LeBron for ring-chasing in Miami and more than a few people felt he was basically doing the same thing by returning to Cleveland. And there's been a fair amount of LeBron-mocking for wanting more playmakers and getting Korver, etc.

Plenty of hate to go around.
I actually thing Deron Williams can really help the Cavs.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:48 pm
by 4/5
Monkey_Driven wrote: I actually thing Deron Williams can really help the Cavs.
So do I.

It's definitely a star power double standard.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 3:50 pm
by verb_to_trust
4/5 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Because Bogut and Williams are bad basketball players
With their backup PG play being weak/non-existent, does Williams help?
I think so but it won't ultimately be the difference. The superstars will decide it in the playoffs, as always.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 4:01 pm
by Monkey_Driven
verb_to_trust wrote:
4/5 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Because Bogut and Williams are bad basketball players
With their backup PG play being weak/non-existent, does Williams help?
I think so but it won't ultimately be the difference. The superstars will decide it in the playoffs, as always.
Sure, if anything it gives Lebron the ability to take a few plays off and/or rest to gear up for the playoffs. Between Korver and Deron Williams one of them will win the Cavs a playoff game or two.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 4:39 pm
by Joesanity
Williams will definitely help, though I hope it doesn't hurt the LeBron-Korver-Jefferson-Derrick Williams-Frye lineup they've been running out there that has been killing teams.

Bogut...meh.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 7:37 pm
by Coach
Coach wrote:Toss in a somewhat serious injury or two for Lebron and/or any of the GSW and that timeline accelerates in regards to making it more realistic to compete.
While it's not a season ending injury for Durant, let this be a lesson that anyone at anytime can get hurt and while GSW could be fine without him, it's a war of attrition, folks.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 7:48 pm
by 4/5
Coach wrote:
Coach wrote:Toss in a somewhat serious injury or two for Lebron and/or any of the GSW and that timeline accelerates in regards to making it more realistic to compete.
While it's not a season ending injury for Durant, let this be a lesson that anyone at anytime can get hurt and while GSW could be fine without him, it's a war of attrition, folks.
Hooray for randomness in sports.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 8:03 pm
by Electromatic
Monkey_Driven wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
4/5 wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Because Bogut and Williams are bad basketball players
With their backup PG play being weak/non-existent, does Williams help?
I think so but it won't ultimately be the difference. The superstars will decide it in the playoffs, as always.
Sure, if anything it gives Lebron the ability to take a few plays off and/or rest to gear up for the playoffs. Between Korver and Deron Williams one of them will win the Cavs a playoff game or two.
As long as Lebron is healthy though, there's not a team in the east worth a crap compared to the Cavs.

2-5 are all middling average teams that could change spots with each other or win their playoff series only to get smoked by the Cavs in the 2nd round or ECF.

Playing this regular season has been a complete waste of time.

Re: NBA Thread

Posted: Wed March 01, 2017 8:04 pm
by Monkey_Driven
4/5 wrote:
Coach wrote:
Coach wrote:Toss in a somewhat serious injury or two for Lebron and/or any of the GSW and that timeline accelerates in regards to making it more realistic to compete.
While it's not a season ending injury for Durant, let this be a lesson that anyone at anytime can get hurt and while GSW could be fine without him, it's a war of attrition, folks.
Hooray for randomness in sports.
I've been saying it for years, sports are dumb.