HBO: Game of Thrones (Song of Ice and Fire)

[Anders]

i don't think there's any chance that we get any resolution on or questions answered about what happens to the wall or the night's watch.

But don't you think it's easy enough to draw satisfactory answers without being explicitly told?

As it stands, the Wall is mostly destroyed. There is no Night's Watch. What more do you want explored?

as for the wall, i know it's mostly destroyed. i saw last season. and i know the night's watch left and either were killed or have remnants that went to winterfell (or elsewhere). again, i've been watching the show. my questions more concern what happens from here on out. i don't think anyone can profess to know the answers. to be sure, i don't need answers to make the show enjoyable, and i don't need for the show to make sense out of every little thing. but considering the details of how we got here, i'm a little more than curious.

Was it really mostly destroyed? It was 300 miles long.

[Anders]

Just the very eastern edge of the wall was destroyed. The thing is several hundred miles long. They could rebuild it or fortify the part that was destroyed.

Thank you!

Yes, sorry, didn’t see this.

[epilogue]

The amount of Wall destroyed changes nothing. That's not really the piont.

[Anders]

Well if they wanted to fix it, they could build a wall for the missing mile.

[epilogue]

Well if they wanted to fix it, they could build a wall for the missing mile.

Sure. But the larger point is that there's no reason to rebuild it.

And if it isn't addressed any further, which most of us expect it won't be, then it's logical and satisfying to think that they don't rebuild. It's not an answer I need, at any rate. That's all.

[EJ]

Well if they wanted to fix it, they could build a wall for the missing mile.

Sure. But the larger point is that there's no reason to rebuild it.

And if it isn't addressed any further, which most of us expect it won't be, then it's logical and satisfying to think that they don't rebuild. It's not an answer I need, at any rate. That's all.

they could make a spin-off series based on rebuilding it. ideally, a sitcom.

[Anders]

I’m sure the books will explain these sort of things. Martin does that really well.

[dimejinky99]

I’ve wondered about this. You’d imagine they’d expand into the north and have new lands now that the threat is gone.
Make use of the break in the wall.

But then.

All the big families/ houses that have been wiped out

What’s happened to them? The Frey’s, The Vale, Mormont, etc etc

All these lords and noble families gone but presumably their subjects are still farming the lands they rent off them and just getting on with it

Who’s looking after all that?

[Mecca]

Ok. He definitely shouts GO! Three times. We don’t see him looking anywhere.
It’s unclear/unverified it’s arya and they obviously didn’t want to tip their hand by showing her and him telling her to go.
But in another light, the shot of jon and the dragon is needless given what’s happening with night king standing over Bran.

They could have just stayed there on that shot.

I dunno.

I love it as a theory and if it came to be true. It makes sense.

The reason they show Jon at that point is because he was supposed to be the hero who saves the day, but he’s clearly not in any position to do so.

Also, come on Dime, verify with screenshots before bringing someone’s bad take to this thread

[dimejinky99]

Ok. He definitely shouts GO! Three times. We don’t see him looking anywhere.
It’s unclear/unverified it’s arya and they obviously didn’t want to tip their hand by showing her and him telling her to go.
But in another light, the shot of jon and the dragon is needless given what’s happening with night king standing over Bran.

They could have just stayed there on that shot.

I dunno.

I love it as a theory and if it came to be true. It makes sense.

The reason they show Jon at that point is because he was supposed to be the hero who saves the day, but he’s clearly not in any position to do so.

Also, come on Dime, verify with screenshots before bringing someone’s bad take to this thread

It’s not my thing. I just like it. Think you’ll see it confirmed this next episode or by the end

[Mecca]

i don't think there's any chance that we get any resolution on or questions answered about what happens to the wall or the night's watch.

But don't you think it's easy enough to draw satisfactory answers without being explicitly told?

As it stands, the Wall is mostly destroyed. There is no Night's Watch. What more do you want explored?

as for the wall, i know it's mostly destroyed. i saw last season. and i know the night's watch left and either were killed or have remnants that went to winterfell (or elsewhere). again, i've been watching the show. my questions more concern what happens from here on out. i don't think anyone can profess to know the answers. to be sure, i don't need answers to make the show enjoyable, and i don't need for the show to make sense out of every little thing. but considering the details of how we got here, i'm a little more than curious.

This Wall discussion is simple:

Why was the wall built? To keep out what’s on the other side i.e. white walkers/wildlings
Are those threats still there? No
With no threats, is the wall necessary?

[Anders]

i don't think there's any chance that we get any resolution on or questions answered about what happens to the wall or the night's watch.

But don't you think it's easy enough to draw satisfactory answers without being explicitly told?

As it stands, the Wall is mostly destroyed. There is no Night's Watch. What more do you want explored?

as for the wall, i know it's mostly destroyed. i saw last season. and i know the night's watch left and either were killed or have remnants that went to winterfell (or elsewhere). again, i've been watching the show. my questions more concern what happens from here on out. i don't think anyone can profess to know the answers. to be sure, i don't need answers to make the show enjoyable, and i don't need for the show to make sense out of every little thing. but considering the details of how we got here, i'm a little more than curious.

This Wall discussion is simple:

Why was the wall built? To keep out what’s on the other side i.e. white walkers/wildlings
Are those threats still there? No
With no threats, is the wall necessary?

They have come back before.

[Mecca]

i don't think there's any chance that we get any resolution on or questions answered about what happens to the wall or the night's watch.

But don't you think it's easy enough to draw satisfactory answers without being explicitly told?

As it stands, the Wall is mostly destroyed. There is no Night's Watch. What more do you want explored?

as for the wall, i know it's mostly destroyed. i saw last season. and i know the night's watch left and either were killed or have remnants that went to winterfell (or elsewhere). again, i've been watching the show. my questions more concern what happens from here on out. i don't think anyone can profess to know the answers. to be sure, i don't need answers to make the show enjoyable, and i don't need for the show to make sense out of every little thing. but considering the details of how we got here, i'm a little more than curious.

This Wall discussion is simple:

Why was the wall built? To keep out what’s on the other side i.e. white walkers/wildlings
Are those threats still there? No
With no threats, is the wall necessary?

They have come back before.

I’m assuming you mean the white walkers? The things that literally exploded because the very first one was killed?

[Anders]

i don't think there's any chance that we get any resolution on or questions answered about what happens to the wall or the night's watch.

But don't you think it's easy enough to draw satisfactory answers without being explicitly told?

As it stands, the Wall is mostly destroyed. There is no Night's Watch. What more do you want explored?

as for the wall, i know it's mostly destroyed. i saw last season. and i know the night's watch left and either were killed or have remnants that went to winterfell (or elsewhere). again, i've been watching the show. my questions more concern what happens from here on out. i don't think anyone can profess to know the answers. to be sure, i don't need answers to make the show enjoyable, and i don't need for the show to make sense out of every little thing. but considering the details of how we got here, i'm a little more than curious.

This Wall discussion is simple:

Why was the wall built? To keep out what’s on the other side i.e. white walkers/wildlings
Are those threats still there? No
With no threats, is the wall necessary?

They have come back before.

I’m assuming you mean the white walkers? The things that literally exploded because the very first one was killed?

Yes, they were destroyed by Azor Ahai.

[Simple Torture]

i don't think there's any chance that we get any resolution on or questions answered about what happens to the wall or the night's watch.

But don't you think it's easy enough to draw satisfactory answers without being explicitly told?

As it stands, the Wall is mostly destroyed. There is no Night's Watch. What more do you want explored?

as for the wall, i know it's mostly destroyed. i saw last season. and i know the night's watch left and either were killed or have remnants that went to winterfell (or elsewhere). again, i've been watching the show. my questions more concern what happens from here on out. i don't think anyone can profess to know the answers. to be sure, i don't need answers to make the show enjoyable, and i don't need for the show to make sense out of every little thing. but considering the details of how we got here, i'm a little more than curious.

This Wall discussion is simple:

Why was the wall built? To keep out what’s on the other side i.e. white walkers/wildlings
Are those threats still there? No
With no threats, is the wall necessary?

They have come back before.

I’m assuming you mean the white walkers? The things that literally exploded because the very first one was killed?

Yes, they were destroyed by Azor Ahai.

The Last Hero defeated the White Walkers with the help of the Children and ended the Long Night--no one knows exactly what happened. Azor Ahai is a legend (myth?) from the East that is very similar to the Last Hero, but most likely not the same person.

[Simple Torture]

Should add: if either of them even existed at all.

[Anders]

It is difficult for the people in Westeros to predict what can happen from the north, unless Bran says something about it. Even for us, that are basically all knowing, it’s impossible to tell if the danger from the north is gone for good.

[Chris_H_2]

Well if they wanted to fix it, they could build a wall for the missing mile.

Sure. But the larger point is that there's no reason to rebuild it.

joe, how do you know that?! that's been my point all along with the lack of answers on how, after being defeated the first, the long night returned at that moment in history. who's to say that it won't return again, and when?

[dimejinky99]

This is from next week. This is kinda telling

Spoiler: show

[Chris_H_2]

This is from next week. This is kinda telling

Spoiler: show

the sun came out