pepperwhiteMFC wrote:We just elected an alien, I'm sure of it.
Something something I voted for Kodos...
Me too, but still - we just elected an alien. We're all one again now.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 10:42 am
by Bi_3
It appears Trump did better than Romney with minority voters. Interesting accomplishment for someone who offers no message other than racism and xenophobia.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 10:55 am
by ABNorman
My Bulgarian roommate, who was railing against Brexit because it threatened his place in the UK, is a firm Trump supporter, despite the same threat for people in the States.
He's also a dick in several other ways, so the rest of us were pretty glad to catch him looking for other accommodation.
Point is, the idea of beating back the corrupt politicians is clearly a very powerful one at the moment.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 11:51 am
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:Two things: It was the "deplorables" comment. I'm sure the media will blame Comey, 48 hours after praising him, but it wasn't him. And Bernie. Bernie turned off Progressives to Hillary. Fuck u very much Bernie supporters.
Are you serious with that one? This isn't even remotely his fault. Clinton and Wasserman-Schultz conspired to keep him out before this thing even began; he repeatedly opted to not take the low-hanging fruit of her e-mail scandal; and when she was nominated, he stumped for her very passionately.
I wasn't a Bernie supporter (I dug his message, but he was too short on specifics), but at least he brought some ultra-liberal ideas to the early debates.
Exactly. His message made Hillary into the "backup plan" for progressives all over the country and swung her too far left for centrist voters. He was the Shake Shack to her McDonalds for proglodytes, when they should have been lining up to lift her right through that glass ceiling.
It also looks like the black turnout was down in key areas, but we probably need more detailed results to understand how bad this hit the blue team.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 12:31 pm
by dimejinky99
It sort of has a feeling of it inevitability about it. I do actually think Trump would be better at smoothing relations with Russia better than Clinton would have at least but other than that it's all up in the air.
Can only hope that wasn't really him during the campaign and now he becomes even a little bit presidential.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 12:35 pm
by doone
Or he might leave it to the professionals? I kinda wish I'd taken my money out of the market before this tho.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 12:59 pm
by lennytheweedwhacker
this is indeed surreal
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:00 pm
by bada
McParadigm wrote:Whatever happens now, alt-right media has been vindicated in a way their followers will never forget. Mainstream media will never be able to convince those people of anything, or talk them down from any ledge.
Maybe when they realize Trump is really a democrat.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:04 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
We finally had a third party candidate win; Trump beat both the Republicans and the Democrats. The GOP will have an easier time kissing & making up but where do the Democrats go from here?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:05 pm
by dimejinky99
Media and social media really needs to be looked at in all this.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:05 pm
by Bi_3
Biff Pocoroba wrote:We finally had a third party candidate win; Trump beat both the Republicans and the Democrats. The GOP will have an easier time kissing & making up but where do the Democrats go from here?
Twitter?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:08 pm
by Let's all laugh at Rangers
To everyone who voted against Trump, this is for you:
One positive from last night seems to be that a dem is leading the NC governor race. HB2 could soon be gone.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:55 pm
by spike
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:58 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 1:59 pm
by ABNorman
tragabigzanda wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:One positive from last night seems to be that a dem is leading the NC governor race. HB2 could soon be gone.
Martin Shkreli is releasing that Wu-Tang album, too.
Huh, that isn't anything to mess with.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 2:00 pm
by tragabigzanda
FUCK ICE
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 2:15 pm
by Green Habit
So I wake up and I see that there's a real chance that Clinton could still win the popular vote. If that happens, which would mean the conflict against the electoral vote went against the Democrats two out of the last five elections, I have to imagine that abolishing the Electoral College will be a prominent plank of their next platform.
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 2:26 pm
by Bi_3
Green Habit wrote:So I wake up and I see that there's a real chance that Clinton could still win the popular vote. If that happens, which would mean the conflict against the electoral vote went against the Democrats two out of the last five elections, I have to imagine that abolishing the Electoral College will be a prominent plank of their next platform.
I don't know the arguments either way... but isn't that essentially disenfranchising voters in flyover states?
Re: Election 2016
Posted: Wed November 09, 2016 2:31 pm
by Bi_3
tragabigzanda wrote:Chomsky calling it in 2010:
Trag, do you honestly believe that in January 2017 the US will become more dangerous to the world than Nazi Germany? Think before you answer.