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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sat April 27, 2019 5:18 pm
by Mickey
bune wrote:You know, running the country shouldn't be treated like a sports game where every four years your 'team' wins and defeats the other one. It should be about the best candidate who will help the country the most. This is so stupid.

I have the flu and slept for shit.
Agreed. We should establish a one party dictatorship of the proletariat supported by the peasantry.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sat April 27, 2019 6:17 pm
by bune
Are you always antagonistically reductive, or is that just for us?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun April 28, 2019 4:43 am
by Superblood Wolfmoon
Dude it’s way too early to expend any energy on this. The 24-hour news machine loves them some elections, and as a result it feels like we’re perpetually in an election cycle. Wake me up in January.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sun April 28, 2019 5:51 pm
by liebzz
meatwad wrote:Dude it’s way too early to expend any energy on this. The 24-hour news machine loves them some elections, and as a result it feels like we’re perpetually in an election cycle. Wake me up in January.
This is true and really part of the larger problem. Once journalism became about calling the horse race and less about actual news, it in many ways contributed to the hyper partisan tribalism and made it acceptable to worry about about your team winning than the actual impact of policy. That now our opinions are formed by what people tell us to think and be outraged about just underscores what a terrible place we are in right now societally. We live in a perpetual team ideological purity contest and in the end nobody wins because nothing gets done while everyone stands around with their hands on their hips blaming the other side.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Mon April 29, 2019 12:37 am
by Bi_3
liebzz wrote:
meatwad wrote:Dude it’s way too early to expend any energy on this. The 24-hour news machine loves them some elections, and as a result it feels like we’re perpetually in an election cycle. Wake me up in January.
This is true and really part of the larger problem. Once journalism became about calling the horse race and less about actual news, it in many ways contributed to the hyper partisan tribalism and made it acceptable to worry about about your team winning than the actual impact of policy. That now our opinions are formed by what people tell us to think and be outraged about just underscores what a terrible place we are in right now societally. We live in a perpetual team ideological purity contest and in the end nobody wins because nothing gets done while everyone stands around with their hands on their hips blaming the other side.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtop ... 7#p1338277

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 4:48 am
by Monkey_Driven
run2death wrote:I have an old j-school buddy who worked in the marketing department there.

Sounds like ESPN wants to turn it into strictly a "sports science" and "advanced stats" site and leave all the election stuff behind.

Hypothetically that would mean saying goodbye to NS.

I was sorta shocked.

I believe 538 was a top 100 site (in the U.S.) around election time, but then the bottom fell out. Seems like they would have been prepared for that.
It's like opening a Halloween store and being disappointed/surprised when business gets slow in November.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Tue April 30, 2019 1:20 pm
by bart
That post is two years old.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 7:45 pm
by digster
digster wrote:Did we manage to find a candidate that absolutely no one seems to like in Howard Schultz?
Well, he has company.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:27 pm
by verb_to_trust
The Democrats need to sort out their giant mess of candidates so people can start uniting behind someone. Some of these jokers have to know they have zero shot. Get out of the way.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 03, 2019 9:02 pm
by digster
Personally, I'm not really sure it's the end of the world for them; they have a lot of candidates, but at this time in the 2016 race, Trump hadn't even announced yet. It's going to be longer (and feel far, far, far, far longer) to the election than it feels now.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:29 pm
by LoathedVermin72
Fuck this boomer piece of shit

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 3:46 pm
by McParadigm
How anyone can look at the massive impact the increased minority, female, and youth vote had in 2018, then look at Donald Trump and think “Joe Biden...that’s what we need...” is beyond me.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 7:20 pm
by washing machine
McParadigm wrote:How anyone can look at the massive impact the increased minority, female, and youth vote had in 2018, then look at Donald Trump and think “Joe Biden...that’s what we need...” is beyond me.
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Re: Election 2020

Posted: Sat May 04, 2019 8:05 pm
by Mickey
Joe Biden would probably have won both the nom and the election if he'd run in 2016, which is the only explanation for his running now when he will be summarily trounced, either (hopefully) in the primary or the general.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 12:31 am
by Green Habit
DCers on my Twitter feed regularly call Gate 35X the worst gate ever.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 4:24 pm
by McParadigm
Joe Biden’s approach to environmental issues is that the status quo is sufficient, according to his own climate advisor. Not great, but also a message that doesn’t really seem to have a target audience. Climate change is the top issue among registered Democrats, it’s a top three issue among independents (and gaining traction every year), and 60% of Republicans don’t believe in it at all. There isn’t really mich in the way of middle ground voters on this issue.

He’s just asking to get repeatedly hurt by this as the cycle heats up. Maybe it helps him draw out some big money donors in the meantime.

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 4:51 pm
by bune

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 4:55 pm
by Green Habit
McParadigm wrote:Climate change is the top issue among registered Democrats
It is? I would have guessed that it would still be healthcare. Where's some good polling to possibly set me straight here?

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:05 pm
by McParadigm

Re: Election 2020

Posted: Fri May 10, 2019 5:12 pm
by Green Habit
McParadigm wrote:https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/reports/monmouthpoll_ia_041119/
Thanks. So at least in Iowa, it's overwhelmingly health care, with environment a distant 2nd.

The popularity of AGW mitigation is going to be tricky because while there's some low hanging fruit that can be had without much disruption (electricity generation, especially if Democrats can get past hangups on nuclear energy), in other cases (transportation, industry, and for a state like Iowa, particularly agriculture) what's needed to be done may not be as easy to swallow.