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Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 2:09 pm
by 4/5
I understand the flag being thrown in real time with no replay. (Btw, these calls can have a MAJOR impact on the game so why isn't there a ref up in a booth whose entire job is to very quickly review those calls? It wouldn't slow down the game any, and then we could at least have less bad 15 yard penalty calls.) But for the NFL to fine that hit is unbelievable. Also, what's with the fine amount? It's almost an admission that they know it's complete nonsense.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 2:14 pm
by darth_vedder
Electromatic wrote:http://topekasnews.com/cheating-denver-broncos-flood-stadium-marijuana-smoke-cause-dizzied-chiefs-lose-sunday-night-game/
So yeah, Mile High!
On my list of road stadiums to visit. Did a newspaper in kansas really write this article???
"Multiple NFL teams have complained the high marijuana to oxygen ratio inside Mile High Stadium gives the marijuana-trained Broncos an unfair advantage at home against incoming teams from states where marijuana remains appropriately illegal."
Complained? I rather doubt that. Dwayne Bowe still wants to know if Sonic is open.

Great article, thanks for posting!
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 3:44 pm
by mray10
durdencommatyler wrote:Green Habit wrote:I know the Broncos almost always beat the Chiefs at home, but that was still a nervous game to watch. Still, fuck yeah.
I really have to question Andy Reid not going for it on two occasions. The worst one was when they had it on the Denver 1--even if you don't get it you back the Broncos up very deep. The other one was when they had 4th and about 4 in no-man's land when they were down by 14.
I would have been shocked if the Chiefs had pulled this one out. I've had this circled as a loss since the schedule came out (I've had others circled as losses too, but this was the only one I was just about 100% on). And I honestly still think the Broncos will sweep the Chiefs. Of course, I'll be rooting for the opposite.
But, yeah, I've said all year the Chiefs just don't have the offense to compete with Manning. Our D can keep a leash on him, but our O can't match him score for score. I'm just glad we didn't get completely blown out.
As for Reid not going for it... the one on Denver's 1, you ALWAYS take points against Manning. And even if he starts on the 1 yard line, chances are better than not that he'll score. Always take points. Always, always, always. The likelihood of our offense scoring a TD was much less than the likelihood of Manning leading a 99 yard drive for 6 points.
And on the second one, you never give Manning field position if you don't have to. And Alex was having a bad habit of losing us yards on important downs. I'm totally fine with Reid's calls on both occasions given how poorly our O was playing and how close the game was compared to how it could have been.
I can't agree with that at all. Field goals don't beat Manning. As a Bronco fan Sunday night, believe me, please ... kick a field goal on every drive.
Also, Bill Barnwell had a good breakdown of this and his stats show that Manning (like pretty much everyone, or so I'd have to assume) is VERY unlikely to score when starting from his own 1.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 3:47 pm
by Green Habit
darth_vedder wrote:Electromatic wrote:http://topekasnews.com/cheating-denver-broncos-flood-stadium-marijuana-smoke-cause-dizzied-chiefs-lose-sunday-night-game/
So yeah, Mile High!
On my list of road stadiums to visit. Did a newspaper in kansas really write this article???
"Multiple NFL teams have complained the high marijuana to oxygen ratio inside Mile High Stadium gives the marijuana-trained Broncos an unfair advantage at home against incoming teams from states where marijuana remains appropriately illegal."
Complained? I rather doubt that. Dwayne Bowe still wants to know if Sonic is open.

Great article, thanks for posting!
Yep, there was a reason I assigned Otto as the Broncos' Simpsons character.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 4:27 pm
by Electromatic
Here's to hoping my team can put forth some sort of quality effort tonight.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 5:18 pm
by Biff Pocoroba
Electromatic wrote:Here's to hoping my team can put forth some sort of quality effort tonight.
I know, I never expected this to be a "who cares?' game in that it's expected to be a Saints blowout. I'm get a pizza tonight & watch anyway but will probably start flipping channels or watching some stuff off the dvr before it's over.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 5:59 pm
by Coach
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Electromatic wrote:Here's to hoping my team can put forth some sort of quality effort tonight.
I know, I never expected this to be a "who cares?' game in that it's expected to be a Saints blowout. I'm get a pizza tonight & watch anyway but will probably start flipping channels or watching some stuff off the dvr before it's over.
I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football. Just load up more games on Sunday - makes watching the Red Zone - especially the late 4 p.m. games - more fun.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 6:38 pm
by Electromatic
Coach wrote:Biff Pocoroba wrote:Electromatic wrote:Here's to hoping my team can put forth some sort of quality effort tonight.
I know, I never expected this to be a "who cares?' game in that it's expected to be a Saints blowout. I'm get a pizza tonight & watch anyway but will probably start flipping channels or watching some stuff off the dvr before it's over.
I've said this before, but it's time to deep six Thursday night football. Just load up more games on Sunday - makes watching the Red Zone - especially the late 4 p.m. games - more fun.
From your lips to God's Ears, I wish this would happen, I HATE Thursday Night Football but the NFL is about to sell a Thursday Package to the best of my knowledge.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 6:46 pm
by Electromatic
Biff Pocoroba wrote:Electromatic wrote:Here's to hoping my team can put forth some sort of quality effort tonight.
I know, I never expected this to be a "who cares?' game in that it's expected to be a Saints blowout. I'm get a pizza tonight & watch anyway but will probably start flipping channels or watching some stuff off the dvr before it's over.
This is a good night to watch whatever the college option is or some good documentary. After the 1st quarter or so, I think it's going to be a freaking blood bath.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 11:27 pm
by epilogue
Green Habit wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Green Habit wrote:I know the Broncos almost always beat the Chiefs at home, but that was still a nervous game to watch. Still, fuck yeah.
I really have to question Andy Reid not going for it on two occasions. The worst one was when they had it on the Denver 1--even if you don't get it you back the Broncos up very deep. The other one was when they had 4th and about 4 in no-man's land when they were down by 14.
I would have been shocked if the Chiefs had pulled this one out. I've had this circled as a loss since the schedule came out (I've had others circled as losses too, but this was the only one I was just about 100% on). And I honestly still think the Broncos will sweep the Chiefs. Of course, I'll be rooting for the opposite.
But, yeah, I've said all year the Chiefs just don't have the offense to compete with Manning. Our D can keep a leash on him, but our O can't match him score for score. I'm just glad we didn't get completely blown out.
As for Reid not going for it... the one on Denver's 1, you ALWAYS take points against Manning. And even if he starts on the 1 yard line, chances are better than not that he'll score. Always take points. Always, always, always. The likelihood of our offense scoring a TD was much less than the likelihood of Manning leading a 99 yard drive for 6 points.
And on the second one, you never give Manning field position if you don't have to. And Alex was having a bad habit of losing us yards on important downs. I'm totally fine with Reid's calls on both occasions given how poorly our O was playing and how close the game was compared to how it could have been.
Well, I should say that I think that (barring something special like a tie game with 4 seconds left) teams should always go for it on 4th and goal from the 1. But to me, when you're going up against a good offense it justifies going for it more often, not less. If you trade TDs for FGs, by mathematical definition you're going to lose.
Right. I tend to agree. But we were having so much trouble moving the ball. I'd rather have three than zero. And our chances at three were actually higher. Take the three.
But, I don't disagree in principle.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Thu November 21, 2013 11:31 pm
by epilogue
mray10 wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:Green Habit wrote:I know the Broncos almost always beat the Chiefs at home, but that was still a nervous game to watch. Still, fuck yeah.
I really have to question Andy Reid not going for it on two occasions. The worst one was when they had it on the Denver 1--even if you don't get it you back the Broncos up very deep. The other one was when they had 4th and about 4 in no-man's land when they were down by 14.
I would have been shocked if the Chiefs had pulled this one out. I've had this circled as a loss since the schedule came out (I've had others circled as losses too, but this was the only one I was just about 100% on). And I honestly still think the Broncos will sweep the Chiefs. Of course, I'll be rooting for the opposite.
But, yeah, I've said all year the Chiefs just don't have the offense to compete with Manning. Our D can keep a leash on him, but our O can't match him score for score. I'm just glad we didn't get completely blown out.
As for Reid not going for it... the one on Denver's 1, you ALWAYS take points against Manning. And even if he starts on the 1 yard line, chances are better than not that he'll score. Always take points. Always, always, always. The likelihood of our offense scoring a TD was much less than the likelihood of Manning leading a 99 yard drive for 6 points.
And on the second one, you never give Manning field position if you don't have to. And Alex was having a bad habit of losing us yards on important downs. I'm totally fine with Reid's calls on both occasions given how poorly our O was playing and how close the game was compared to how it could have been.
I can't agree with that at all. Field goals don't beat Manning. As a Bronco fan Sunday night, believe me, please ... kick a field goal on every drive.
Also, Bill Barnwell had a good breakdown of this and his stats show that Manning (like pretty much everyone, or so I'd have to assume) is VERY unlikely to score when starting from his own 1.
Sure, my comment was meant to be tongue-in-cheek hyperbole. Point being that Manning is unlike any other. But didn't the Broncos score on both of their drives that were behind the 20? I'm just saying, you play to win, but in that particular situation taking three points and feeling good about it maybe does more for you than losing six on a goal line stand and feeling useless and defeated and putting that much MORE pressure on your D.
I don't remember if the Broncos scored after that field goal or not.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 2:09 am
by Electromatic
Ahmad Brooks is calling bullshit on that hit from Hicks no foul even called.
Fuck Brees. Short little ass hole
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 2:10 am
by Green Habit
The officiating gods must like the Saints. Ryan got collared even worse than Brees did last week and yet there was no flag.
EDIT: Heh, my comment was certainly more diplomatic than Electro, who has a dog in the fight.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 2:26 am
by TBAMTS
Green Habit wrote:The officiating gods must like the Saints. Ryan got collared even worse than Brees did last week and yet there was no flag.
EDIT: Heh, my comment was certainly more diplomatic than Electro, who has a dog in the fight.
I know it didn't matter in the end because they scored on the next play, but there is no way they had enough evidence to overturn that first TD. Ron Winter isn't going to be working any playoff games this year, hopefully.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 4:45 am
by dkfan9
TBAMTS wrote:Green Habit wrote:The officiating gods must like the Saints. Ryan got collared even worse than Brees did last week and yet there was no flag.
EDIT: Heh, my comment was certainly more diplomatic than Electro, who has a dog in the fight.
I know it didn't matter in the end because they scored on the next play, but there is no way they had enough evidence to overturn that first TD. Ron Winter isn't going to be working any playoff games this year, hopefully.
as long as he doesn't appear on the cover of SI or comment on labor disputes, he'll probably ref the super bowl
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 7:46 pm
by psychobain
that's what you get

Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 8:42 pm
by Electromatic
Welp, the goals bent, we're going to have to tear down the entire stadium and build another one.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 9:28 pm
by Green Habit
Bet the odds are good that we'll have a rule change next year that only allows dunking without hanging onto the post.
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Fri November 22, 2013 9:38 pm
by psychobain
graham rocking the georgia dome
typical
Re: 2013 NFL Season
Posted: Sun November 24, 2013 6:42 pm
by Green Habit
LTRP teaser just happened before the current commercial break in CAR/MIA.