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Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:06 pm
by harmless
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
I think we're probably both going insane, dime. I don't know what to tell you anymore, other than that.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:06 pm
by Brain_of_K
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Lolz.

Mental.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:07 pm
by dimejinky99
*smug grin at not being the village wackball anymore

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:07 pm
by dimejinky99
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Lolz.

Mental.

A 9 post hunn calling me out? Surely not
Shoo fly

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:08 pm
by Mine
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
A lot of fanboys are going to dream of Stone Gossard crying like a little baby because of what you just did.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:09 pm
by gems and rhinestones
Fuzzcharger wrote:
gems and rhinestones wrote:
Fuzzcharger wrote:
Mine wrote:This.....this song has a weird effect on people :shock:
His life really is making IlluminEddie go full retard.
What are you implying?
I'm not implying anything. Are you implying that I'm implying something?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:09 pm
by IlluminEddie
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:10 pm
by Brain_of_K
dimejinky99 wrote:
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Lolz.

Mental.

A 9 post hunn calling me out? Surely not
Shoo fly
Oh, it happened.

That i recently joined the forum shouldn't impede my ability to call BS.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:11 pm
by Heathen
dimejinky99 wrote:
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Lolz.

Mental.

A 9 post hunn calling me out? Surely not
Shoo fly
Post count is a good enough indicator of a poster's quality. Not as good as surveys mind you.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:11 pm
by Norah
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Lolz.

Mental.

A 9 post hunn calling me out? Surely not
Shoo fly
Oh, it happened.

That i recently joined the forum shouldn't impede my ability to call BS.
Don't let dime push you around, he's kind of nuts.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:11 pm
by gems and rhinestones
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:12 pm
by stip
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:phew, made it
if you've read them only once I don't think you can really get these posts, you might have to start again
if RM doesn't hold my interest anymore I'm not sure it's worth the time. There's lots of other message boards I could be posting on.
deny all you want but if you're still here that means you're still a bit invested in this board
I still like reading the older posts.
still longing for that old, angry RM?
we've just gotten a bit too 80s. I mean McP was making a Yakov Smirnoff joke in the Lightning Bolt thread, for fucks sake.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:13 pm
by Thejambi
IlluminEddie wrote:
Thejambi wrote:[Backspacer had the shit promoted out of it with 2 radio "hits". Much , much, much more so than Riot Act. Doesn't not mean it ranks higher than RA except for success. .
IlluminEddie wrote: So, you're saying Riot Act didn't have any hits? I agree. That could be one reason it sucks.
Thejambi wrote:I am not a Riot Act fan . It is not a radio album. I like Backspacer better but I'd have to say the quality of the songs on RA are better.
First, we were discussing sales as a proxy for ranking albums. He thought it wasn't a good one and I asked to suggest better. I said a survey would probably best. There was no response to that, but then (as one can see above) it was implied that the only reason Backspacer had better sales was because of “hits”. I responded that yeh - RA didn’t have any hits. Then somehow the quality factor was brought into play, he claimed the quality was better on RA.

So, yes, I still say there was an implication within the entire context that radio hits are NOT synonymous with high quality. At the very least this was implied with Backspacer. So, to find out, I asked the question using another example with Adele (rolling in the deep example), which was ignored.

That's pretty much where we are.

I say - anyone who thinks songs are higher quality because they played less on the radio is an idiot. And further anyone who thinks an album is higher quality because it has no radio hits is an idiot too.
I'll break it down:
Sales do not equate quality as you have suggested.
Backspacer sold more because it was promoted more and had radio success.
I think Riot Act is a more quality album in terms of musicianship.
I just happen to enjoy Backspacer more for the qualities that made it more radio friendly.
I don't always like more radio friendly attributes but in this case I do.
If I was asked to rank based on quality I would put RA ahead .
If I was asked which I enjoyed more to listen to it would be BS.

Is that better?

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:13 pm
by Brain_of_K
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Brain_of_K wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:Stip

Pearl jam have just written a bigger anthem than their flagship anthem 'Alive'

Your rebuttal
Lolz.

Mental.

A 9 post hunn calling me out? Surely not
Shoo fly
Oh, it happened.

That i recently joined the forum shouldn't impede my ability to call BS.
Don't let dime push you around, he's kind of nuts.
So I see.

Cheers for the heads up though :)

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:13 pm
by EJ
stip wrote:
we've just gotten a bit too 80s. I mean McP was making a Yakov Smirnoff joke in the Lightning Bolt thread, for fucks sake.
:lol: wish I saw that one.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:13 pm
by epilogue
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
:luv:

And we're back!

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by harmless
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:
Heathen wrote:
stip wrote:phew, made it
if you've read them only once I don't think you can really get these posts, you might have to start again
if RM doesn't hold my interest anymore I'm not sure it's worth the time. There's lots of other message boards I could be posting on.
deny all you want but if you're still here that means you're still a bit invested in this board
I still like reading the older posts.
still longing for that old, angry RM?
we've just gotten a bit too 80s. I mean McP was making a Yakov Smirnoff joke in the Lightning Bolt thread, for fucks sake.
We've become hypocrites, abandoned all of our principals and should be using this public space to rant against Obama.

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by LikeLukin
Does IlluminEddie like Sirens??

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by Dr. Van Nostrand
gems and rhinestones wrote:
IlluminEddie wrote:
Heathen wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:I was just about to reply to IlluminEddie's most recent post, but then decided it wasn't worth it.
I'd love to have a look at how things are inside his head. It must be fascinating.

333 Riot Act albums sold a year. Literally, hundreds.
That doesn't mean anything bro.
oh it means something

Re: New Song (9.19.13): Sirens

Posted: Thu September 19, 2013 8:14 pm
by BurtReynolds
is just fanboy an insult for anyone you don't agree with? I've never been clear on what a fanboy is.