Re: Feminism
Posted: Sun March 09, 2014 9:02 pm
Who knew Jorge could hold a carrot with his left foot
good to see you so concernedBurtReynolds wrote:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/03/us_supreme_court_wont_hear_eas.html
I just saw "boobies" and thought it might be feminist related.malice wrote:good to see you so concernedBurtReynolds wrote:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/03/us_supreme_court_wont_hear_eas.html
BurtReynolds wrote:I just saw "boobies" and thought it might be feminist related.malice wrote:good to see you so concernedBurtReynolds wrote:http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/breaking-news/index.ssf/2014/03/us_supreme_court_wont_hear_eas.html
Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html
Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access
Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
birth control is largely by prescription only for women (you notice men can even buy rubbers at a gas station etc) because our roots are as a puritanical society and women who presume they'll be having sex, and thus take preventative measures against it, are sluts and whores and should be shamed for it, should be closely monitored by their (most of the time, male) physicians as well as probed in literally, very invasive ways. and made to report regularly (to their doctors) on their sexual habits.simple schoolboy wrote:Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html
Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access
Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
Because I woulda slipped one into my wife's daily morning coffee?malice wrote:of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.
malice wrote:birth control is largely by prescription only for women (you notice men can even buy rubbers at a gas station etc) because our roots are as a puritanical society and women who presume they'll be having sex, and thus take preventative measures against it, are sluts and whores and should be shamed for it, should be closely monitored by their (most of the time, male) physicians as well as probed in literally, very invasive ways. and made to report regularly (to their doctors) on their sexual habits.simple schoolboy wrote:Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html
Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access
Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
men only need a prescription for viagra, and that's marketed on tv as 'ways to be more manly, vigorous, and able to perform when the 'the mood is right'. you know, because it's totally fine and good for men to want to have sex. far as i know, viagra dilates blood vessels or something like that so can pose larger health issues than the pill does for women.
all conjecture on my part, but seems like a pretty plausible explanation...
of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.
google (and 47 years as a woman) tells me otherwise regarding the pill (most commonly Ortho-Novum 777) - what dangerous side effects apart from increased chance of blood clots for smokers or women over 35? since that's a well known risk and is no more or less dangerous than smoking over the counter cigarettes...@SkitchP wrote:malice wrote:birth control is largely by prescription only for women (you notice men can even buy rubbers at a gas station etc) because our roots are as a puritanical society and women who presume they'll be having sex, and thus take preventative measures against it, are sluts and whores and should be shamed for it, should be closely monitored by their (most of the time, male) physicians as well as probed in literally, very invasive ways. and made to report regularly (to their doctors) on their sexual habits.simple schoolboy wrote:Kinda related artifact of the patriarchy: why is birth control not over the counter? Sure, there are risks, but there are risks in many over the counter pills. Tylenol is not too far down the list from alcohol for causes of liver failure. Additionally, I'd like to se the numbers, but I'd wager that tobacco is riskier regarding stroke than estrogen and progesterone.malice wrote:http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2014/03/10/missouri_state_senator_david_sater_blames_pregnant_rape_victims_for_not.html
Republican Who Blamed Pregnant Rape Victims for Not Taking Plan B Tried to Restrict Plan B Access
Sater may believe that women need to be swift in their Plan B procurement, but he also apparently thinks that it should be very difficult for women to procure Plan B. In 2010, Sater sponsored a bill that would allow pharmacies not to stock emergency contraception if they don't want to, and prevent women—presumably including rape victims—from suing pharmacies for not doing so. So, rape victims: You're expected to get it together so quickly post-rape that you don't forget to take emergency contraception, even though you're not allowed to expect any pharmacies to actually stock the stuff. (Also, despite his focus on emergency contraception, it appears Sater has no idea that it has a 5-11 percent failure rate, which means that some of those rape victims that he blames for not taking Plan B fast enough did, in fact, do so.)
men only need a prescription for viagra, and that's marketed on tv as 'ways to be more manly, vigorous, and able to perform when the 'the mood is right'. you know, because it's totally fine and good for men to want to have sex. far as i know, viagra dilates blood vessels or something like that so can pose larger health issues than the pill does for women.
all conjecture on my part, but seems like a pretty plausible explanation...
of course if any of these well educated men here can refute that, i'd be interested to read why they think birth control for women isn't as easily obtainable over the counter as for men.
Also, you know, it's a drug that can have significant side effects if taken by the wrong woman. It's best to be checked for a doctor for those possible complications before starting to take a drug EVERY SINGLE DAY.
malice wrote:who are the wrong women?

lenny, nah, snd, borken irisMcParadigm wrote:
malice wrote: google (and 47 years as a woman) tells me otherwise regarding the pill (most commonly Ortho-Novum 777) - what dangerous side effects apart from increased chance of blood clots for smokers or women over 35? since that's a well known risk and is no more or less dangerous than smoking over the counter cigarettes...
who are the wrong women?