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Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 3:13 pm
by Monkey_Driven
Peeps wrote:EJ wrote:MattA75 wrote:
it was a great game, but between the missed free throws, Popovich's coaching blunders, and the Spurs inability to even get one rebound when it mattered, it was a game San Antonio literally threw away
I was just about to post this.
As disappointing as the non-calls were (loved LBJ's Jim Brown elbow to Danny Green on that layup), the Spurs really blew this one. Sucks.
I do think, though, that if any team is capable of bouncing back against the Heat in their building, its the Spurs.
did you love when lenoard moved millers face out of the way with his free hand when he dunked?
There is an offensive foul on about 25 percent of dunks. They are never called. I did not see the play in question though.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 3:25 pm
by BDB
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 3:55 pm
by Peeps
Monkey_Driven wrote:Peeps wrote:EJ wrote:MattA75 wrote:
it was a great game, but between the missed free throws, Popovich's coaching blunders, and the Spurs inability to even get one rebound when it mattered, it was a game San Antonio literally threw away
I was just about to post this.
As disappointing as the non-calls were (loved LBJ's Jim Brown elbow to Danny Green on that layup), the Spurs really blew this one. Sucks.
I do think, though, that if any team is capable of bouncing back against the Heat in their building, its the Spurs.
did you love when lenoard moved millers face out of the way with his free hand when he dunked?
There is an offensive foul on about 25 percent of dunks. They are never called. I did not see the play in question though.
while some are less obvious than others this one was pretty bad
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 5:40 pm
by Simple Torture
4/5 wrote:Don't try to jinx this.
Congratulations to the Miami Heat, 2013 NBA Champions! Already staking out your spot on the parade route?
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 7:48 pm
by 4/5
I'm going to defend Pop here. At the start of the 4th he subbed Duncan and Parker out LIKE HE ALWAYS DOES!! Like he has for years. Just like he did in game 5. Yes, that was where Miami made their run, and it almost assuredly was assisted by the fact that Duncan and Parker were on the bench, but that doesn't make Pop wrong. He trusted the same guys he's trusted all year to get them through the first 4-5 minutes of the 4th quarter so that his 37 year old big and his gimpy PG could get a few minutes of much needed rest and hopefully close out the game strong. I mean you guys did see how the Heat marginalized Duncan the whole 2nd half, right? Playing without any rest probably wouldn't have been a good idea. So I don't fault him for that at all. Taking Duncan out on Allen's 3 to tie the game I also think was rational. Miami had to shoot a 3 and he wanted guys who could defend the 3 point line. Obviously the worst case scenario for him happened when Miami got the offensive rebound, so it was a move that didn't work out. It's fair to disagree with it, but I certainly think that given his information going into that play it was a reasonable decision. Taking Parker out on a couple of Miami's final possessions definitely makes sense. I'm not sure why anyone would question that. Parker isn't a defender, so they got an additional bigger body on the floor to try to stop Miami, and if I'm not mistaken they did stop Miami both times, so I'm not really sure what the problem was there.
The Spurs gave the game away at the line. That's what I will agree with. But I don't fault Pop.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 7:57 pm
by 4/5
MattA75 wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:
Spurs blew it, no doubt, but the Heat's defense was really damn good in the 4th quarter.
It was really good when it had to be...they seemed to let up once they would get caught up and then turn it on again when they fell behind
I disagree with this. Once the Heat flipped the "on" switch on defense they never relented. (I don't even know that I'd say they flipped a switch. I think they played tough D all night, they were simply getting beaten by a great offensive team that was shooting near 60%. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit: they were making tough shots all night. Miami focused on taking away the 3 point shot, which they did; the trade-off was that Duncan was going to have a 1-on-1 matchup with a guy (Bosh or Birdman) that he could dominate. But even when Duncan was going off Miami was playing aggressively. I never questioned their effort or intensity).
When the Spurs somehow went on that 8-0 run from 1:48 to 0:28 the Heat were still playing aggressive defense, the Spurs just stepped up. That 3 Parker hit was a shot the Heat would want them to take every time. They stifled him for almost the entire shot clock, so he raises up for a step back 3. When the ball leaves his hands that's a good defensive possession. Obviously he made it, but that's what great players do; they make great shots even when the defense is all over them.
What you saw last night is why the Spurs are so good: Miami played as hard as they could and were a made free throw or a missed miracle shot from losing.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 8:06 pm
by 4/5
I LOVE that LeBron last night and today keeps talking about how unhappy he is with himself and his turnovers in the last minute.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 8:08 pm
by dkfan9
manu ginobli's a fucking idiot
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:01 pm
by MattA75
4/5 wrote:MattA75 wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:
Spurs blew it, no doubt, but the Heat's defense was really damn good in the 4th quarter.
It was really good when it had to be...they seemed to let up once they would get caught up and then turn it on again when they fell behind
I disagree with this. Once the Heat flipped the "on" switch on defense they never relented. (I don't even know that I'd say they flipped a switch. I think they played tough D all night, they were simply getting beaten by a great offensive team that was shooting near 60%. Sometimes you just have to give the other team credit: they were making tough shots all night. Miami focused on taking away the 3 point shot, which they did; the trade-off was that Duncan was going to have a 1-on-1 matchup with a guy (Bosh or Birdman) that he could dominate. But even when Duncan was going off Miami was playing aggressively. I never questioned their effort or intensity).
When the Spurs somehow went on that 8-0 run from 1:48 to 0:28 the Heat were still playing aggressive defense, the Spurs just stepped up. That 3 Parker hit was a shot the Heat would want them to take every time. They stifled him for almost the entire shot clock, so he raises up for a step back 3. When the ball leaves his hands that's a good defensive possession. Obviously he made it, but that's what great players do; they make great shots even when the defense is all over them.
What you saw last night is why the Spurs are so good: Miami played as hard as they could and were a made free throw or a missed miracle shot from losing.
I was referring more to the run the Spurs ran off after Miami had come back at the beginning of the 4th...didn't the Spurs get the lead back up to like 8 or 9, followed by another Miami run that had them take the lead before that last Spurs 8-0 run?
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:01 pm
by MattA75
4/5 wrote:I LOVE that LeBron last night and today keeps talking about how unhappy he is with himself and his turnovers in the last minute.
I realized last night that Lebron is the most likeable guy on that Heat team, and that it's not even close
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:06 pm
by dkfan9
MattA75 wrote:4/5 wrote:I LOVE that LeBron last night and today keeps talking about how unhappy he is with himself and his turnovers in the last minute.
I realized last night that Lebron is the most likeable guy on that Heat team, and that it's not even close
birdman's pretty likable
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:27 pm
by 4/5
MattA75 wrote:
I was referring more to the run the Spurs ran off after Miami had come back at the beginning of the 4th...didn't the Spurs get the lead back up to like 8 or 9, followed by another Miami run that had them take the lead before that last Spurs 8-0 run?
I could look it up, but I don't think so. I'm pretty sure Miami started the quarter on a 19-7 run in the first 6 minutes, then Miami held a lead that alternated between 1 and 3 points (never more than 3) until Parker's 3 with a little under 2 minutes left.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:29 pm
by 4/5
dkfan9 wrote:MattA75 wrote:4/5 wrote:I LOVE that LeBron last night and today keeps talking about how unhappy he is with himself and his turnovers in the last minute.
I realized last night that Lebron is the most likeable guy on that Heat team, and that it's not even close
birdman's pretty likable
I'd say Mike Miller. But why did we both go white guy there?
Norris Cole also doesn't really do anything to make you dislike him.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:35 pm
by nyquillyn
My main problem with Pop from last night's game was playing Manu during crunch-time. He was a turnover just waiting to happen the entire game.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:37 pm
by dkfan9
turned2black wrote:My main problem with Pop from last night's game was playing Manu during crunch-time. He was a turnover just waiting to happen the entire game.
yeah, agreed. and that awkward motherfucker driving into the whole heat team at the end, he didn't deserve a foul. that was stupid.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:40 pm
by MattA75
dkfan9 wrote:MattA75 wrote:4/5 wrote:I LOVE that LeBron last night and today keeps talking about how unhappy he is with himself and his turnovers in the last minute.
I realized last night that Lebron is the most likeable guy on that Heat team, and that it's not even close
birdman's pretty likable
everytime I see him I have the overwhelming urge to punch him in the face...I think it's the douchey Mohawk and douchey tattoos more than his game
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:44 pm
by dkfan9
MattA75 wrote:dkfan9 wrote:MattA75 wrote:4/5 wrote:I LOVE that LeBron last night and today keeps talking about how unhappy he is with himself and his turnovers in the last minute.
I realized last night that Lebron is the most likeable guy on that Heat team, and that it's not even close
birdman's pretty likable
everytime I see him I have the overwhelming urge to punch him in the face...I think it's the douchey Mohawk and douchey tattoos more than his game
yeah, i totally got that, until i saw him interviewed.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:48 pm
by 4/5
turned2black wrote:My main problem with Pop from last night's game was playing Manu during crunch-time. He was a turnover just waiting to happen the entire game.
I'll give you that.
Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 9:51 pm
by 4/5
Rewatching on NBAtv right now. 4th quarter's about to start.

Re: NBA Thread
Posted: Wed June 19, 2013 10:07 pm
by nyquillyn
4/5 wrote:Parker isn't a defender.
Not sure why this perception is still out there. Statistically (opposing points per and opposing field-goal percentage) he is one of the best defensive guards in the league.