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Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 16, 2015 4:15 am
by Rob
Rand Paul was having his best performance ever until he brought up Bridgegate. He recovered decently, but man, what a mistake.

Jeb just isn't a good candidate, but he had the two best comments toward Trump - "you can't insult your way to the White House" and something like "he gets his info from the shows. Whether that's Sunday morning or Saturday morning, I don't know."

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 16, 2015 3:54 pm
by Green Habit
Rob wrote:Rand Paul was having his best performance ever until he brought up Bridgegate. He recovered decently, but man, what a mistake.
His opening statement was pretty cool.
Rob wrote:Jeb just isn't a good candidate, but he had the two best comments toward Trump - "you can't insult your way to the White House"
And of course, Trump responded to that with an insult.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Mon December 21, 2015 3:15 pm
by Simple Torture

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Tue December 22, 2015 12:20 am
by stip
Here comes the start of your establishment bump, 4/5 :)

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Tue December 22, 2015 2:10 am
by 96583UP
Image

team 2 will be Donald Trump/Dolph Lundgren

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 30, 2015 3:02 pm
by 4/5
stip wrote:Here comes the start of your establishment bump, 4/5 :)
Ah, yes, the long foretold Lindsay Graham domino hath fallen!

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 30, 2015 3:10 pm
by 4/5
Does anybody else think that the Democrats (Hillary and the White House, specifically) are attacking Trump as a way of trolling the Republicans--hated Democrats attack Trump, helping him to gain the mantle of The Enemy of the Hillabama, increasing his popularity among Republicans, making it more likely that he can win the nomination, and helping Hillary in the long-run? Or is it just part of the normal "front-runners trying to appear as if it is a foregone conclusion that they will be the nominee by speaking past their party rivals and attacking the other front-runner" early primary behavior?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 30, 2015 4:14 pm
by McParadigm
It's possible. It's also possible that each candidate wants to avoid being seen as the "soft," conflict-avoiding one.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 30, 2015 4:21 pm
by nyquillyn
I have no doubt the Dems are trolling them. It's a good strategy. There's no way he can beat her.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 30, 2015 5:00 pm
by LoathedVermin72
At this point, whenever t2b says something about politics or science, I just assume he is correct, so I will take this as permission for me to stop worrying about Trump.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Wed December 30, 2015 5:06 pm
by McParadigm
Also, the best way for any candidate to get press coverage right now is to mention Trump anything.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 03, 2016 2:23 pm
by stip

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 03, 2016 4:18 pm
by nyquillyn
This kinda highlights my general feelings on Nate Silver and crew (FiveThirtyEight) this election cycle. They spent so much time discounting Trump's chances and telling everyone not to worry, that they kinda missed the impact he was really having. Pointing to "historical" fallacies and ignoring trends has made their coverage smug and kinda aloof. They seem less interested in quality analyst and more interested in preserving Silver's status. Annoying as fuck.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/wha ... g-in-2015/

"Not only did I dismiss Trump’s candidacy on many occasions (here, here, here and here, for example), I was sometimes eager to do so in order to confirm my original belief that he wouldn’t win."

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat January 09, 2016 11:19 pm
by dimejinky99
So the Muslim woman staging a silent protest at the at Trump rally and him getting her thrown out and the crowd all booing her.

Just wondering how that's getting covered over there?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sat January 09, 2016 11:43 pm
by Simple Torture
At this point, anything that happens at a Trump rally is just noise. It gets reported on in the morning, and by the afternoon everyone has forgotten about it and is waiting for the next event.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 10, 2016 12:17 am
by Birds in Hell
dimejinky99 wrote:So the Muslim woman staging a silent protest at the at Trump rally and him getting her thrown out and the crowd all booing her.

Just wondering how that's getting covered over there?
I'd expect far-right protesters (for example) to be similarly be ejected from a Sanders rally.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 10, 2016 12:24 am
by dimejinky99
If they were staging a silent protest?

So the guy wears a cowboy hat and doesn't cheer or say anything but just sits there, Sanders would have him thrown out? And all his supporters would boo?

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 10, 2016 12:29 am
by dimejinky99
Trump obviously won't be elected but he is being allowed set the narrative. His narrative. And we're all reading more about him and his stupidity and what it's doing in terms of dividing America and causing huge cultural rifts along socio economic lines that were always there maybe but now it's derailing this entire campaign.

When are the conventions on so we can all just be rid of him.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 10, 2016 12:49 am
by Birds in Hell
dimejinky99 wrote:If they were staging a silent protest?

So the guy wears a cowboy hat and doesn't cheer or say anything but just sits there, Sanders would have him thrown out? And all his supporters would boo?
She didn't simply sit there, she stood up in protest (directly behind him, if I read correctly).

If our fellow in the cowboy hat (let's give him an NRA tshirt too) stood up in protest at a Sanders rally, yes, I think he'd probably be asked to leave.

The point is that I don't think that it's in any way surprising or unexpected that a political party or candidate would eject a protester from a private rally.

Re: Election 2016

Posted: Sun January 10, 2016 1:34 am
by E.H. Ruddock
So an Aussie and an Irishman walk into a bar...