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Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 2:43 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 3:07 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:Downloaded, thanks for the heads up!
:thumbsup:

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 3:10 pm
by epilogue
I'll be interested in your thoughts, trag. Like me, I think you'll have some things you disagree with. But a lot of that, I think, comes from a need to live with the record longer. Hopefully, you enjoy it despite potential disagreements.

I listened to it right after the Indiecast discussion of the record which was... yeesh. So, this was a welcome pallet cleanser after that.

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:38 pm
by VinylGuy
why, they hated it there?

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:44 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:46 pm
by Ms Harmless
listened to the new one this morning and I was blown away

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:47 pm
by epilogue
VinylGuy wrote:why, they hated it there?
I wouldn't say they hated it but they don't like it very much. Which is fine. The issue is that their analysis is terrible. I don't think I've heard anyone completely misunderstand a record the way Hyden does in that ep. Ian's takes are more interesting but very flaccid and hollow. Hyden is totally out of his depth. And Ian, despite making fun of how you don't need time to write a review of a record, doesn't have much to say about it because he clearly hasn't thought much about it because he hasn't had time to process it fully. It's weird.

It's fine that they don't like it. I think that's valid. The Rolling Stone pod doesn't gush about it, either. They each have a lot of issues but the conversation is thoughtful and nuanced. Not so with Indiecast. Hyden's take especially is cringier than any of the cringe on Mr. Morale. :lol:

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:48 pm
by epilogue
Ms Harmless wrote:listened to the new one this morning and I was blown away
:heartbeat:

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:48 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:49 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:51 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Not ready to put this stake in the ground just yet, but I think I'll probably wind up cutting these tracks:

Rich (Interlude)
We Cry Together
Savior (Interlude)

Crown maybe gets to stay? On the fence about that one. Everything else is definitely a keeper.
I’m cutting Crown and calling this a record. All killer, no filler…Not that any of these tracks I’ve cut are filler, per se. But they slow the momentum down, and in their absence the production is an exclusively beat-driven affair. None of the segues suffer either. I’ll listen to the cut songs on vinyl occasionally.
I can understand skipping the interludes. I'll probably end up doing the same at a certain point. We Cry Together is probably another I won't seek out when I'm not listening to the full record. Not because it's not an interesting/good song but because it's tough to listen to.

But no way am I dropping Crown. I fucking love that song.

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 4:55 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 5:02 pm
by epilogue
tragabigzanda wrote:Oh fine I’ll keep it too
:hooray:

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 5:46 pm
by Dev
Ello Sailor wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:Why is the song named after a mask?
Bet this keeps you up at night, huh.
lol

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 5:57 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 5:57 pm
by tragabigzanda

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 6:04 pm
by Ello Sailor
tragabigzanda wrote:Honestly not a bad question. My read on that one is that Black people have been cultured to hate their own physical appearance and that the masks offered them a respite? But I should sit with the lyrics instead of just listening and trying to cobble it together.
You can't be serious. The lyrics are about dropping the facade, a "mask off" moment.

Drop the fake woke, Trag

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 6:22 pm
by tragabigzanda
tragabigzanda wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:Top 10 maybe?
Hello Morning
Close Captioned
The Kill
Place/Position
Do You Like Me?
Latest Disgrace
Recap Modotti
Nightshop
Break
Life & Limb
I'd maybe bump Life & Limb for Epic Problem

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 6:22 pm
by VinylGuy
BOOMMM

Fake woke, fake woke, you all whites are all a bunch of fake woke, fake woke

Re: Kendrick Lamar is better than Soundgarden

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 6:47 pm
by Ms Harmless
tragabigzanda wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Ms Harmless wrote:listened to the new one this morning and I was blown away
:heartbeat:
Welcome aboard! Sent Auntie to an LGBTQ family member this morning and he loved it.
awesome